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To: Smogger
Nothing you say will change the fact that Prop 187 is still popular and would win today if on the ballot, and so would a Republican if he or she campaigned for it.

The backlash against prop 187 was from established Mexican Americans that have been here several generations, NOT newly arrived immigrants.

I'm assuming you're talking about newly arrived legal immigrants. So what? Does this mean that even if true, since we don't want to offend established legal Mexican Americans we should throw out the rule of law and spend billions on illegal aliens, catering to their every whim? Our country and constitutional republic will not survive that type of selective pandering. Of course much of this could be prevented if the federal government would close the borders and enforce the laws. Don't even talk about it, just do it. If it was done years ago, we wouldn't be discussing the crisis today.

146 posted on 06/30/2003 11:31:57 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I'm assuming you're talking about newly arrived legal immigrants. So what? Does this mean that even if true, since we don't want to offend established legal Mexican Americans we should throw out the rule of law and spend billions on illegal aliens, catering to their every whim? Of course not. However, some of us are trying to win elections.

Our country and constitutional republic will not survive that type of selective pandering. Of course much of this could be prevented if the federal government would close the borders and enforce the laws. Don't even talk about it, just do it. If it was done years ago, we wouldn't be discussing the crisis today.

Please. Let's get real. Which part of "They are here because people hire them" don't you understand? How do you propose to "close" the borders for one? With a 20 foot high concrete wall? Guard towers and machine guns? Who is going to pay for all of this? Secondly it wouldn't make any difference if their were a twenty foot high fence. Desperate people would still make it here in droves. It would just become even more lucrative for the people the get them here. Thirdly, THE GOP reprensents business interests THAT NEED IMMIGRATION LEGAL AND OTHERWISE. PERIOD. They are here because WE WANT THEM HERE.

Closing the border is worthless. As I already said if the government wanted an end to illegal immigration they would PUNISH the people that hire them. You know the companies that are avoiding paying their SSI, disablity, and fair wages by using undocumented immigratns. Nothing else will work. End of discussion.

BTW: Who is going to do my landscaping? :~P

147 posted on 06/30/2003 12:00:17 PM PDT by Smogger
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