[Luis Gonzalez]

I don't know how the problem will be solved, I don't think is a solveable problem.

I think that we need to step back and tone the hysteria down. I don't for one minute believe that because the two guys down the street who have been living together for ten years as an apenly gay couple, have a piece of paper from the Clerk of the Circuit Court stating that they are married, the rest of us will stop getting married, raising families, and living a Christian life.

It should absolutely be left to the States to define what a marriage is, as the Constitution says. There wll undoubtedly be a State that will recognize same-sex unions of one sort of another, probably a Civil Union.

The States should then appeal to Congress to create a fourth exemption to the Full Faith and Credit Clause, and set the standards for how each State could follow suit. Once again, leave the decision to the States, they can decide whther they will recognize same-sex Civil Unions (marriages not performed by clergy) or not.

The problem with the Defense of Marriage Act, is that it legislated a general exemption to the Full Faith and Credit Clause without there ever having been a conflict that needed to be resolved. The Constitution did not give that power to Congress.

Our culture is changing, and trying to stop change of this magnitude is like trying to block the sun with one finger. We may not be able to stop the changes, but we should be able to impact it.

And it's going to be rough sailing ahead too, better believe it.

It's never easy when a Biblical, Constitutionally approved, revered institution as old as time itself is challenged.

Look what happened when Lincoln did it.

[First Amendment]

Our culture is changing, and trying to stop change of this magnitude is like trying to block the sun with one finger. We may not be able to stop the changes, but we should be able to impact it.

Social Darwinism. Men-evolved-from-apes, all change is inevitable and onward and upward. Our benighted ancestors didn't know about gay rights, poor ignorant fools. Now, with societal progress, we know better. Social evolution. Moral relativism. The only absolute truth is that there is no absolute truth.

Since it's inevtiable, lie back and enjoy it, or at least tolerate it.

It is our duty, our right, and our only real happiness to fight for what is the natural law of the universe. The alternative is chaos in our time.

[RobbyS]

Now that is cute: comparing marriage with slavery. In fact, marriage law as developed by the church and taken over by the state, serves to prevent women from being mere chattels, as they are under, say, Muslim law.

[DAnconia55]

I think that we need to step back and tone the hysteria down. I don't for one minute believe that because the two guys down the street who have been living together for ten years as an apenly gay couple, have a piece of paper from the Clerk of the Circuit Court stating that they are married, the rest of us will stop getting married, raising families, and living a Christian life.

Yeah, I don't get it either.
Like the law was the only thing stopping these people from running out and buggering gay men.

We agree that it would be 'ideal' if they'd simply choose to call their arrangements "Domestic union" or something else.

Not likely, I'm afraid. And you ain't seen screaming here yet....