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To: DAnconia55
So you would state you are "pro life" in other words, you don't believe women should be free to do as they please with their bodies and run out and rid themselves of an unwanted pregnancy?

You have just contradicted yourself, my friend, because now you are saying it's ok to FORCE your belief of "human at conception" on those women that believe that it's not a human until it's born...thereby negating their rights to their beliefs.

You can't pick & choose what is morally acceptable to impose on people and what is not, per your libertarian creedo, you must allow everyone to choose what is right for themselves.

Again, the laws are there to protect us from ourselves and our illogical rationalization at time of crisis.

455 posted on 06/30/2003 2:16:51 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (The mind is its own place, and in itself can make heaven of hell, a hell of heaven~Milton)
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To: cherry_bomb88
People opposed to Christians who stand up for the morals and principles America was founded upon come in an endless variety of patterns. There are many ways to be fundamentally wrong.
458 posted on 06/30/2003 2:20:14 PM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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To: cherry_bomb88
So you would state you are "pro life" in other words, you don't believe women should be free to do as they please with their bodies and run out and rid themselves of an unwanted pregnancy?

If they were doing it with their own bodies it would be called suicide. That I have no problem with. (But I'll bet you want a law against that too...)

You have just contradicted yourself, my friend, because now you are saying it's ok to FORCE your belief of "human at conception" on those women that believe that it's not a human until it's born...thereby negating their rights to their beliefs

(Really now, do try to keep up.... )

Life Exists and isn't debatable. I don't really CARE what their opinions are, because they are demonstrably wrong. A baby is a baby. And the moon isn't made of green cheese. And 2 men having sex in their own house isn't harming you.

You can't pick & choose what is morally acceptable to impose on people and what is not

To an extent you can. Force and Fraud. Outside of THAT, you're correct. I have no authority to 'impose' my will.

But I do have the authority to stop a mugger, or a rapist, or a thief. I DO NOT have the authority to stop a prostitute, or a drug user or a gambler.

And neither does government, because it has no powers that we don't have ourselves.

Morally at least. The problems come when you try to cheat reality. (Like banning gay men from having sex in their own homes.) You can make immoral laws, but you WILL pay the price for them....

Again, the laws are there to protect us from ourselves and our illogical rationalization at time of crisis

Nanny state nonsense.

464 posted on 06/30/2003 2:25:12 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: cherry_bomb88; unspun
Ok. You want Fundie fruit cake nutty?

Here's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Click here

466 posted on 06/30/2003 2:36:53 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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