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To: StatesEnemy
I meant no offense. But "corporations" are supposed to be "greedy". They are supposed to find more and more ways to squeeze profits out of their business to appease stockholders. That is their function. They are supposed to reduce costs wherever they can, and that will mean sending work overseas if it makes economic sense.

I would ask: Do you shop at the most expensive grocery store in your neighborhood, or buy the most expensive item (when you have several alternatives)? I would think not, unless you have unlimited finances.

Our unemployed IT workers are the buggy whip makers, or transistor manufacturer employees, or steelworkers of earlier generations. People must re-tool, relocate or resign themselves to obsolescence. This is fact. The government is not going to step in and forbid companies from sending jobs overseas.

7 posted on 06/28/2003 12:16:37 PM PDT by PackerBoy
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To: PackerBoy
Our government, through OPIC and EX-IM spend billions of our tax dollars to underwrite the risks of corporations doing business in 3rd world countries. Here's how it helped Enron:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26159

The American taxpayer is losing his job because his tax $$ enables a corporation to outsource his job to India or China, where the cost/standard of living is much less.
When congressmen are lobbied/bribed by corporate execs who cannot see past this year's bonus, that is a RACKET and a SCAM.
Here's Phyllis Schlafly (a noted Christian Conservative) on this:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/phyllisschlafly/ps20030602.shtml
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/phyllisschlafly/ps20030610.shtml

Have you considered the National Security risks involved in Globalisation?
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-hawkins062503.asp
http://www.tradealert.org/view_art.asp?Prod_ID=803

There are plenty of Conservatives against replacing Americans with the slave labor of foreign countries. Paul Craig Roberts and Steve Farrell have excellent perspectives on this:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/paulcraigroberts/pcr20030305.shtml
http://www.newsmax.com/commentarchive.shtml?a=2000/4/11/095631

Right now, your medical, financial & telecommunication records are in databases that are being run and accessed by foreigners in their homelands. Does the possible cyber terrorism or identity threat bother you at all?
Our foreign aid educated foreigners. Our foreign aid (through OPIC) is hiring foreigners. Foreigners will not lose an arm fighting for America. Men like the ones in this article deserve better representation in their government than they are getting. America deserves a better future than one you seem to approve of so much, or fail to see. Free traders are being duped into believing that we have such a thing as free trade. What we have is a very unbalanced, against us trade, that is undermining the American middle-class and America's national security.
22 posted on 06/28/2003 1:03:21 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: PackerBoy
> But "corporations" are supposed to be "greedy".

To a point. When a corporation serves *only* the stockholder at the expense of the community, it ceases to be a good corporate citizen and is just a promoter of the 'people as a commodity' philosophy. I guarantee you, the extreme end result of that philosophy is not a place I want to live. There *has* to be a balance between stokholder interests and community interests.

> Our unemployed IT workers are the buggy whip makers

Hardly. It's not like there's no more demand for IT work in the US. Corporations have just found a cheaper source of human commodity. They will happily flee to Bangladesh, Myanmar or Mongolia once Calcutta becomes too pricey.

>People must re-tool, relocate or resign themselves to obsolescence.

So the career specialist in his mid 40s, who has played by the rules and stayed abreast of all the latest technologies should do what precisely? Move to Corpus Christi and become a day laborer? You must understand that many of us are not willing to resign ourselves and our country to an abandonment of an industry we created, just so that a few CEOs can buy humvees and vacation houses in the Hamptons?
32 posted on 06/28/2003 1:39:40 PM PDT by Mr Crontab
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To: PackerBoy
Our unemployed IT workers are the buggy whip makers

That tired old analogy only worked in a badly scripted movie, and it doesn't even partially apply now.

When the automobile industry was growing, the producers and consumers were predominantly in the U.S. The wealth generated from the production and consumption generated by that industry circulated inside the same economy, thus creating and sustaining related and unrelated micro-economies with a ripple effect.

The practice of offshoring for cheaper labor and importing cheaper labor we have experienced in the last two decades produces no ripple effects. The "global" economy stills depends primarily on the US consumers to buy the products, while less and less of the wealth generated from the sales circulates in the US economy to fund the consumption, or sustain any other economic activity. Americans are increasingly borrowing against the assets of the country to finance our economic destruction.

Instead of ripple effects, what we have now is the whirlpool effect of the American economy going down the toilet.

In a little over two decades we have moved from a manufacturing economy, to a high tech/service economy, and now are rapidly evolving into a slave or serf economy with the wealth being concentrated among a small cadre of self-annointed elite and crooked politicians.

This destruction was accomplished by our elected politicians (mostly Democrats, but far too many Republicans) rewriting or creating loopholes in immigration and trade laws, laws which had served the country well for 200 years.

There never has been and never will be a "global" economy. Nations compete, negotiate, and wage war for access to resources and markets, historically trying to win in the interests of their respective peoples. The difference today is that America's politicians have sold out their constituients to this "globalist" fantacy.

Juvenile hollywood explanations cannot cover up the degree of treachery that has been foisted upon the American people or the damage being done to our economy, national security, our sovereignty, and ultimately our survival.

38 posted on 06/28/2003 2:12:05 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: PackerBoy
The government is not going to step in and forbid companies from sending jobs overseas.

When the economic erosion causes a true red-alert depression in the U.S. then there will be a tidal wave of political dissent. The politicians who attempt to obfuscate and continue the national economic betrayal policies...will be oused. 'Free enterprise' in politics. And then tariffs will be erected to solve the problems. Once and for all. India will become a ghost town for its IT industry. Unfortunately, China has focussed on capturing the actual hardware of industry, and disentangling from them will prove expensive...but just as essential.

68 posted on 06/28/2003 6:29:48 PM PDT by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: PackerBoy
The government is not going to step in and forbid companies from sending jobs overseas.

Yes especially since the government is paying companies to send the jobs overseas. And because many politicians have overseas investments, like Senator Diane Feinstein, they write laws to protect themselves, not their constituents.
92 posted on 06/29/2003 10:00:29 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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