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Mexico's latest 'blame switch' ludicrous
El Paso Times ^
| June 28, 2003
| Charlie Edgren
Posted on 06/28/2003 10:55:28 AM PDT by FITZ
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Not one of the victims' families or neighbors has ever once suggested it is Americans doing these murders, least of all American military. Many do suspect Mexican officials, their friends and family members are murdering the girls and so are protected by that government.
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06/28/2003 10:55:29 AM PDT
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FITZ
To: sarcasm
ping
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posted on
06/28/2003 10:55:56 AM PDT
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FITZ
To: Tancredo Fan
Looks like a little "racism" on the part of the Mexican government ---it's got to be Americans doing the murders----that must be why the government of Mexico is so reluctant to solve the murders!!! You can't find many Americans left in El Paso ---so it must be Fort Bliss guys going over to Mexico, murdering hundreds of women and girls and easily getting by with it ---of course they wouldn't stand out over there, no one sees them do anything ---no witnesses observed anything. Fort Bliss soldiers can easily dump bodies in Lote Bravo and other places outside the city ---sure......
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06/28/2003 10:59:10 AM PDT
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FITZ
Comment #4 Removed by Moderator
To: SkooldBiDaStayt
There are many hispanics in this country who are native spanish speakers and whose families go back several generations in the US who are very patriotic.Some but not all ---many of the hispanics in this country are descended from Spaniards and/or Spaniards and native Indians, many didn't come from Mexico ever, they are not the dual citizens that we see now who pledge their allegience to their Mexican Consulate but collect their American welfare check. If assimilation was the plan, we wouldn't see hundreds of Mexican Consulates popping up throughout the USA and the plans for Mexican politicians to begin campaigning in this country.
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06/28/2003 11:11:46 AM PDT
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FITZ
To: FITZ
MEXICO is another innocent victim of the US white male
Comment #7 Removed by Moderator
To: SkooldBiDaStayt
And before you get too excited by the prospect of Mexican government gaining more of a foothold in this country, you might like to read up on how things are being done over there.
Death Stalks the Border
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posted on
06/28/2003 11:19:16 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: FITZ
As one who was based at Ft. Bliss, TX, off and on for nearly eight years, I remain skeptical of the charge. Most GI's going to "Wazoo" (Juarez) did not get past the first qtr. mile into Juarez after the border bridge. The bars for GI's begin quickly at the "Kentucky Club" and end at the "Lago Blanco" or White Lake. To venture further into the city, at night, was to invite a stay in the Mexican jail. By the time one left the Kentucky Club one was pretty drunk. If you got as far as the Lago Blanco or the "Cave" you were not sober enough for the "Chiqita's, and murder was the furthest thing from anyone's mind. Getting back to barracks or quarters became the mission of priority.
No, I doubt it's a GI, it's not impossible, just not likely. The Mexicans in Juarez are infamous for the oligarchy that runs the town and corruption is the unwritten constitution of the city government. Deputy Attorney General Carlos Vega is spewing a colored liquid into the wind and it's not cerveza.
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06/28/2003 11:20:28 AM PDT
by
elbucko
To: Tancredo Fan; madfly
PING
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06/28/2003 11:20:47 AM PDT
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Allegra
To: FITZ
"Mexico is apparently practicing a time-tested ploy -- blaming the United States when its Keystone Kops law-enforcement system and artless government bureaucracy can't solve the country's problems"The author is obviously being kind. Mexico's problem is that the entire government, from Fox to the federales, is corrupt enough to compare to that of Saddam Hussein's regime.
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06/28/2003 11:23:52 AM PDT
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cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: elbucko
No, I doubt it's a GI, it's not impossible, just not likely.I'd say it's impossible --- the bodies are often found on the outskirts of town and in certain colonias ---Americans would stick out like sore thumbs. If it was Americans, that government might actually do something about the murders ---many think Mexican government officials and Mexican cops themselves are behind the murders ---or else a serial killer who happens to be from a wealthy influential family so of course can get by with it. Never once have the people who make up the victims' class speculated Fort Bliss soldiers.
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06/28/2003 11:27:03 AM PDT
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FITZ
To: SkooldBiDaStayt
People like Pat Buchanan amuse you? I believe you're being kind to Pat...but he has some vicious supporters on this forum, so look out.
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06/28/2003 11:27:33 AM PDT
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cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: elbucko
"Deputy Attorney General Carlos Vega is spewing a colored liquid into the wind and it's not cerveza."That was great. The whole post was great. BUMP!!
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06/28/2003 11:29:50 AM PDT
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cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: elbucko
Many people have long suspected that police are involved in the murders, and that they cover up for whoever is killing the women, said Judith Galarza, president of Chihuahua Independent Committee for Human Rights. Over the years, weve seen cases of police who were accused of rapes, of homicide, and nothing happened to them. People here are afraid of the police.
Former U.S. DEA Special Agent Phil Jordan said the Juárez drug cartel has corrupted federal, state and city police to the extent that police no longer investigate murders. Theyre too busy protecting drug shipments for the narcos.
From:
http://www.elpasotimes.com/borderdeath/page2-5.html
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posted on
06/28/2003 11:30:34 AM PDT
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FITZ
To: FITZ
Former U.S. DEA Special Agent Phil Jordan said the Juárez drug cartel has corrupted federal, state and city police to the extent that police no longer investigate murders. Theyre too busy protecting drug shipments for the narcos. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
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posted on
06/28/2003 11:33:07 AM PDT
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sarcasm
(Tancredo 2004)
To: cake_crumb
Mexico's problem is that the entire government, from Fox to the federales, is corrupt enough to compare to that of Saddam Hussein's regime.Mexico desperately needs a revolution, and the sooner the better.
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posted on
06/28/2003 11:41:29 AM PDT
by
judgeandjury
(The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
To: FITZ
I've always believed that it was the Mexican police and agents who Deputy Attorney General Carlos Vega uses to guard and deliver drug shipments that did the murders. When some one "shorts" Deputy Attorney General Carlos Vega or anytone else in the PANista government, these same killers go after them "officially." The hookers normally get it when there has been an especially good delivery (deep into the US, for example) and Deputy Attorney General Carlos Vega pays the murders of his payroll a special bonus. They party very hard and some of the party favors get hurt.
I think the last time Deputy Attorney General Carlos Vega "explained" the murders, he blamed it on the same guy who had done OJ's wife.
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posted on
06/28/2003 11:45:56 AM PDT
by
Tacis
To: judgeandjury
"Mexico desperately needs a revolution, and the sooner the better."But they honestly don't seem interested. Mexico is a beautiful country...but Mexicans would rather duck the corrupt officials and sneak to the US than fix their own problems. It's really sad. Both for the US and for Mexico. It's hard to believe the Mexican Revolution really happened when you look at Mexico today.
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posted on
06/28/2003 11:55:04 AM PDT
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cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: judgeandjury
A revolution. It won't happen any time soon.
The entire Mexican government, from Fox to the federales, are too busy corrupting our government from Bush on down to city municipalities.
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posted on
06/28/2003 11:58:31 AM PDT
by
texastoo
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