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To: P-Marlowe; yall
You argue against a right to privacy..


Our general rights to life, liberty, and property encompass ~all~ of our unenumerated and enumerated rights that can be imagined..

IE.. It is doubtful that any rational person would argue against our right to live a 'private' life, secure in our homes and persons.

- Thus, does it not reasonably follow: - That we have an unenumerated, fundamental right to privacy, found under both the 9th & 14th amendments?


In the same way, we can find our right to keep arms in both the 2nd, and in the 14ths restriction that we can not be deprived of property without due process of law.

Prohibitory state laws against behaviors or property can not be termed to be 'due process'. - They are simply the arbitrary rules of a majority.

203 posted on 06/28/2003 9:47:47 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: tpaine
Thus, does it not reasonably follow: - That we have an unenumerated, fundamental right to privacy, found under both the 9th & 14th amendments?

I can imagine that an Amendment guaranteeing a right to privacy would have been ratified by the Founders, but not if it was understood by them to give legal protection to buggery.


210 posted on 06/28/2003 9:53:02 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: tpaine
You argue against a right to privacy..

No. I argue against the Supreme court stating that there is a constitutional right to abortion that is contained in the "penumbras" of the constitution that prohibits states from regulating certain behaviors and actions that the states and local governments deem inappropriate.

There is no right in the federal constitution. Indeed the Federal Constitution prohibits the Federal Courts from even ruling on these state matters, yet this so-called right to privacy has been used as a tool to remove democracy and repubican government from the control of the people.

I perceive that you are an anarchist or some kind of libertairan. Well this decision will have exactly the opposite effect that you hope it does. Your hope for libertarianism is to ensure that local control of government is not usurped by federal control. That's what happened here.

Enjoy your little pyrrhic victory. It will be short-lived. You will regret the day you championed this decision.

277 posted on 06/28/2003 11:07:39 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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