[cherrycapital]

Yes, the yahoos and pinheads were elected by mostly yahoos and pinheads. And yes, that is what I don't like about them. That even the most illiterate wino can have a say, however small, in making laws for other people, is apparently what conservatives think is great about America.

Libertarians believe that what makes America great is that there are some things the government CANNOT DO, majority or no majority. It is just a basic difference in values, I suppose.

[aristeides]

Do you really think the ultimate effect of these decisions is going to be to limit government?

[jwalsh07]

Yes, the yahoos and pinheads were elected by mostly yahoos and pinheads. And yes, that is what I don't like about them. That even the most illiterate wino can have a say, however small, in making laws for other people, is apparently what conservatives think is great about America.

Libertarian totalitarianism in all it's splendor. There are plenty of other adjectives to apply but I'll resist them.

You Mr Libertarian wouldn't know freedom if it bit you on your ass.

[WOSG]

You are truly clueless if you think abusing the Rule of Law and twisting the Constitution advances freedom.

The concept of freedom does not exist in a vacuum. It is a moral philosophy and thus requires an understanding of man as a moral being.

You cannot separate freedom from morality (or responsibility). The statements from John Adams on this thread should give you pause. Where in history has an wholly corrupt and immoral society flourished in freedom?
Is not therefore morality of th ecitizenry a *prerequisite* for a free society?