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IDF officer sentenced to month in jail for refusing to to dismantle outpost on ideological grounds
Haaretz News Ticker ^ | 6/27/2003

Posted on 06/27/2003 1:37:18 PM PDT by yonif

20:05 IDF officer sentenced to month in jail for refusing to carry out order to dismantle outpost on ideological grounds


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dismantle; ideology; idf; israel; officer; outposts

1 posted on 06/27/2003 1:37:18 PM PDT by yonif
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; adam_az; LarryM; American in Israel; ReligionofMassDestruction; ...
Ping.
2 posted on 06/27/2003 1:37:31 PM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
Merciful, he deserved more time.
3 posted on 06/27/2003 1:41:06 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: yonif
Refusing to follow orders is a no no in the military no matter where one's sympathy resides.
4 posted on 06/27/2003 1:41:38 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: yonif
I assume this means he refused to dismantle a Jewish settlement. I have some sympathy for him, although I agree that refusing to follow orders is a serious business.
5 posted on 06/27/2003 1:45:33 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: yonif
An officer that does not obey lawful orders should not be an officer after something like this. The IDF is a military organization, not a philosophy club.

After the 30 days in the stockade, time for a dishonorable discharge.

6 posted on 06/27/2003 1:54:22 PM PDT by Imal (If You Think THIS is Crazy, You Should Read What My Other Personalities Post.)
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To: yonif; Phil V.
Phil V. loves to post articles about objectors in Israeli army. How did he miss this one?
7 posted on 06/27/2003 1:57:07 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: yonif
IDF officer sentenced to month in jail for refusing to carry out order

I thought that all IDF personnel were allowed to request a change of venue if they felt they could not in good conscience carry out this command. So why did this officer fail to make sure that he would not be in a position to receive such an order?

8 posted on 06/27/2003 2:03:55 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: yonif; Simcha7; Light Speed
TEHILLIM 81

8"Hear, O My people, and I will admonish you!
        O Israel, if you will listen to Me!
        9There shall be no foreign god among you;
        Nor shall you worship any foreign god.
        10I am the LORD your God,
        Who brought you out of the land of Egypt;
        Open your mouth wide, and I will fill it.


        11"But My people would not heed My voice,
        And Israel would have none of Me.
        12So I gave them over to their own stubborn heart,
        To walk in their own counsels.


        13"Oh, that My people would listen to Me,
        That Israel would walk in My ways!
        14I would soon subdue their enemies,
        And turn My hand against their adversaries.
        15The haters of the LORD would pretend submission to Him,
        But their fate would endure forever.
        16He would have fed them also with the finest of wheat;
        And with honey from the rock I would have satisfied you."


Pray for this man! And all those who will follow in his footsteps...

9 posted on 06/27/2003 3:51:59 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (Free Your Mind...5:15 DEBARIM)
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To: BrooklynGOP
My interests change, wander and drift. Presently I am fascinated by Rabbinical fatwahs eminating from Yesha.
10 posted on 06/27/2003 4:24:37 PM PDT by Phil V. (back to DOS 3.2)
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To: Phil V.
lol! Fatwa? lololol.
11 posted on 06/27/2003 4:28:06 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
What's so damned funny?! My spellin?
12 posted on 06/27/2003 4:35:58 PM PDT by Phil V. (back to DOS 3.2)
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To: Phil V.
Where should I start? :P
13 posted on 06/27/2003 4:49:51 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
OK, so I'm confuzed on terminology. Please help me on this . . .
          PLEASE MATCH THE CHARACTER WITH THE APPROPRIATE TERM


            Tony Soprano                     decision
            Osama BinLaden                   ruling
            Yesha Rabbi                      contract
            Judge Judy                       fatwa


14 posted on 06/27/2003 5:09:38 PM PDT by Phil V. (back to DOS 3.2)
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To: Phil V.
You should add your name to the left column and another term to the right.
15 posted on 06/27/2003 5:21:24 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
blindly follow orders.....hmmmmmmm.....aint that the excuse the germans used.......bravo right or wrong he followed his own ethics.....god bless him
16 posted on 06/27/2003 6:22:17 PM PDT by gypsy-joker (praise the lord and pass the ammunition)
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To: gypsy-joker
Yeah, it was the Germans' excuse, and that of every soldier before them. Out of a combination of self-righteousness and political expedience, we destroyed the stoic miltary ethos at Nuremberg, and have been paying the price, ever since.
17 posted on 06/27/2003 6:51:29 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: EU=4th Reich
Once again, without Divine intervention, the Jews are toast.

The fact that there is an Israel at all speaks volumes to that.

But I am not sure how "biblical claims to the Jewish homeland" relate to insubordination by an IDF officer. Perhaps you can elaborate for me?

20 posted on 06/28/2003 3:48:28 PM PDT by Imal (If You Think THIS is Crazy, You Should Read What My Other Personalities Post.)
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