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To: Technogeeb
" I don't have a cite, because none of the news sources ever seemed interested in it."

All I can find is that it "was probably a personality conflict between the caller and the people in the apartment." From the Los Angeles Times: "What Nance probably never imagined, though, was that the two actually would get arrested."

That the pair decided to fight the law indicates that they realized they had an opportunity to do so, but it's hardly evidence of a ho-mo-sex-u-al conspiracy.
250 posted on 06/28/2003 11:28:17 AM PDT by jde1953
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To: jde1953
All I can find is that it "was probably a personality conflict between the caller and the people in the apartment." From the Los Angeles Times: "What Nance probably never imagined, though, was that the two actually would get arrested."

I'll give you a few more details about the people involved (unfortunately; again no cites because the media doesn't seem to think this stuff is newsworthy. But if you want to check up on it yourself you can verify everything below. It might make a decent book one day depending on who wins the culture wars).

These two defendants are not the "nice innocent people just wanting to be left alone" being portrayed by the media. Talk to the deputies and/or go to the Harris county court records. You will find Tyron Garner has arrests for assault (two convictions, one in 2000 while this case was under appeal), drunk driving, drug possession (marijuana / crack), etc., as well as protective orders against him for some pretty outrageous acts (beating people with hoses and sexually assaulting them while being high on crack cocaine). Lawrence is a murderer (murder by automobile conviction in 1967), and also a drunk driver (two convictions) just like Garner.

That the pair decided to fight the law indicates that they realized they had an opportunity to do so, but it's hardly evidence of a ho-mo-sex-u-al conspiracy.

They refused to stop having anal sodomy even after the deputies demanded that they stop to answer questions, until the deputies were forced to arrest them on that charge. Ask yourself; if you were in your home with your wife and police broke in, would you continue to have sex with her in front of them while the police demanded you stop and answer questions? Combined with fact that more radical elements of the houston gay community have been talking about doing something like this for years (specifically including some of the people who were involved in this case; and the person who made the false report was Mr. Garner's ex-roommate and sodomy partner), along with the private statements by people in the community that "yeah, we planned it", seems to be pretty convincing circumstancial evidence to me.

But, of course, no one is going to believe this, just like they didn't want to believe that Roe v. Wade wasn't really a rape case (because women don't lie about things like that, just like homosexuals don't lie about wanting to keep their sex lives private). I doubt you'll ever see any of these details in print, because the media has an agenda and doesn't want these facts to come out. But if you want the truth, all you have to do is go to the Harris county court records and see for yourself.

251 posted on 06/28/2003 2:38:54 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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