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To: tpaine
I do not believe state legislatures should pass laws against private, consensual sex when no money is involved, but I also do not believe the federal courts have the Constitutional power to regulate in this area. Even though I agree with the ends, I disagree with the means.

If the 14th amendment is meant to protect a broad continuum of rights, then who defines these supposedly self-evident rights? The liberals have since FDR claimed people have the right to freedom from want, which they have used to justify state-sponsored plunder and redistribution.

I believe if any branch of government is to define what the 9th amendment means by other rights, it should be the voters themselves and their elected representatives, not unelected justices.

I trust the people more than some elite.
1,176 posted on 06/26/2003 1:58:52 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo
If the 14th amendment is meant to protect a broad continuum of rights, then who defines these supposedly self-evident rights?

Tpaine, of course. See 1188.

1,191 posted on 06/26/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Thane_Banquo
The issue is not 'defining' life/liberty/property. -- It is that fed/state/local governments cannot violate those self-evident rights. The 14th clearly makes that point, which you deny..
Why do you WANT government to have the power to prohibit individual freedoms? It makes no sense.

I do not believe state legislatures should pass laws against private, consensual sex when no money is involved, but I also do not believe the federal courts have the Constitutional power to regulate in this area.

You deny the 14th amendments clear restrictions on government power? Why?

Even though I agree with the ends, I disagree with the means. If the 14th amendment is meant to protect a broad continuum of rights, then who defines these supposedly self-evident rights?

Ultimately, the people. They rejected the power to prohibit booze. - The 18th was soon repealed.

The liberals have since FDR claimed people have the right to freedom from want, which they have used to justify state-sponsored plunder and redistribution. I believe if any branch of government is to define what the 9th amendment means by other rights, it should be the voters themselves and their elected representatives, not unelected justices.

As long as the laws written or 'defined' do not violate individual rights, we agree.

1,255 posted on 06/26/2003 2:40:49 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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