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To: wizzler
Could you please elaborate on the reasons that you think: 1. A CD at Joe's Used CD Shop is not a licensed copy. 2. A song you download on Kazaa is not an unlicensed copy.

1. This is a business making a profit selling a cd and not allowing the copyright holder any benefit from the sale. This is clearly wrong. Also, used book stores are doing the same underhanded practice.

2. A song from Kazaa "could" be an unlicensed copy if.......

A. the song has a valid copyright in the first place ...and (aa.) it was never played on a radio station or anywhere it could be heard for free (bb.) the Copyright holder doesn't want you the hear it

B. A person has never bought the song at any time in the past and paid the "piper" already

267 posted on 06/26/2003 9:07:15 AM PDT by Lower55
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To: Lower55
Thank you for the elaboration.

1. This is a business making a profit selling a cd and not allowing the copyright holder any benefit from the sale. This is clearly wrong. Also, used book stores are doing the same underhanded practice.

This is not an underhanded practice. I suggest you look up something called the "doctrine of first sale." A copyright holder maintains rights to royalties only on an initial purchase. From there, the disc or book or whatever is the owner's to do with as he wishes. (Except to make a copy.)

A song from Kazaa "could" be an unlicensed copy if... A. the song has a valid copyright in the first place

Well, every piece of work is inherently copyrighted. Only work that has fallen into the public domain would be exempt.

(aa.) it was never played on a radio station or anywhere it could be heard for free

This is completely irrelevant and has nothing to do with anything. I mean, you're essentially just making stuff up at this point.

(bb.) the Copyright holder doesn't want you the hear it

Bingo.

B. A person has never bought the song at any time in the past and paid the "piper" already

This is irrelevant. "Buying the song" at some point in the past does not empower you to infringe a copyright holder's exclusive right to reproduce and distribute his work.

268 posted on 06/26/2003 9:16:40 AM PDT by wizzler
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To: Lower55
There was a case in florida which found used CD selling was specifically legal. A used CD store was opened next to a regular CD store. Its been a while, The crux was the transfer of the entire original cd not just a copy.
301 posted on 06/26/2003 3:10:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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