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To: traditionalist
Problem is your strategy's been tried and doesn't work.

HA HA HA!!!!!! WHAT A JOKE! WHEN?????? Tell me when?

There's only a couple of folks who have said "hola" to those folks, much less "here's why our platform of economic opportunity is better than the Democrats' handout trap".

Jeb Bush tried and it worked. George W. Bush tried and it worked. George Pataki -- well, I'm not sure quite how to describe his efforts, but he's had success. Wayne Allard (and Bob Beauprez, I think, too) was very proactive in taking his conservative message to Hispanics in Colorado and that worked.

Same with blacks (tho different). People say, "oh, they'll never vote for us", so they don't even try, and so blacks don't vote GOP, and so people say "oh, they'll never vote for us".

If you think the Republican Party has taken the conservative message to racial and ethnic minorities you're living in some sort of alternate universe.

56 posted on 06/25/2003 2:13:54 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
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To: JohnnyZ
Not one of the men you mentioned got a majority of non-Cuban Hispanics to vote for him.
60 posted on 06/25/2003 2:33:12 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: JohnnyZ
There's only a couple of folks who have said "hola" to those folks,

I've said a lot more than "hola" ---and you know what's interesting? Those coming to get on welfare will vote for whoever will give them more handouts ----but what's really interesting ---and I have heard with my own ears hard-working illegals say that lately there are too many and it's hurting them from making a living. Even illegals aren't so stupid that they think their wages will ever rise if there is no limit to immigration, even they know their chances for more work and more money are hurt by this massive flood.

76 posted on 06/25/2003 4:09:58 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: JohnnyZ
I agree. The GOP should eliminate the last vestiges of its own racism. How it would effect the voting patterns of certain groups neither you or I can say. The GOP is trying with hispanics and is unsurprisingly ignoring blacks yet again. I have to say that trying so hard with a group that just got here while ignoring a group of people who are at the very root of the American experience makes me more than a little angry.

In short yes the GOP should "give it shot" in talking to hispanics. You seem to imply that part of talking to hispanics is acquiescing to what is now the largest immigration wave in the history of our country (done largely illegaly). I reject the notion that opposition to that is racist. Liberal immigration for all. No massive preference, much less the large one they already have, for mexicans and hispanics.
135 posted on 01/29/2006 6:31:03 PM PST by mthom
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