SHOULD CONDI RICE RUN FOR GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA ? (Lars Larson)

June 24, 2003 | myself

[fight_truth_decay]

Lars Larson sat in tonight for Michael Savage on the Savage Nation. His question to his listeners was: "Do you think Condi Rice should run for Governor of California?" The buzz is out there, Lars suggested.

Lars stated: "A McNally (?) poll, done mostly for personal curiosity, found 66% favored Condi Rice over [17%] Arnold Schwarzenegger in the primary and an absolute win in the general election.

California is now $40 billion in the hole and Californians are taxed to the hilt with auto registration fees to be raised even higher. Lars also said in speaking with Chuck Buck, CEO of Buck Knives, Inc.; that after 50 years of being based in El Cajon, California, Buck Knives would be moving out of state. One reason, Lars said Buck gave was Sacramento keeps running up their budget and "thinks we are going to keep picking up the tab".

In comparing the popularity of Hillary Clinton to Rice, Lars added: "You can find people that just hate Hillary. You do find that same negative reaction to Rice." Lars told of his experience in Israel with friends having dinner and Hillary was in the same restaurant. Lars stated, "Hillary was the nastiest human being he had ever had the displeasure to meet." This reaction after his friends tried to have a picture taken with her. Lars, himself, also tried to ask her a question on Arafat.

A male caller, age 46, African American and a Democrat, called in to the Savage Nation and said he was so disappointed with the Democrats in California; he is thinking strongly of voting Republican in the next election. He would definitely vote for Condi Rice for governor. It might be noted Rice was asked to run for Senator previously, but had turned that idea down.

If Rice is elected Governor of California, Lars believed her next step would be to run for Vice President or President of the United States. Most presidents were previously governors or senators. Maybe even Cheney would step aside giving health reasons in the next election, Lars continued, and run with Bush. If she does, "then I hope he gives her meaningful duties" and hoped it would be not just steak dinner appearances. "She is brilliant, but not an 'Ice Queen' like Hillary."

[fight_truth_decay]

Do you think Rice should run for Governor of California?

Will she face of with Hillary in 2008?

Would she run with Jeb Bush in 2008?

[Drango]

Condi, Condi, Condi

[RightWhale]

Condi needs to win a major election and do a decent job in the office before she runs for president. Gov of California would be that if she's up to it.

[BenLurkin]

[NormsRevenge]

Save Condi for the Vice Pres. in 2008.

Draft Tom 8-)

[rhinohunter]

I would much rather see her run against Boxer next year.

[spokeshave]

Condi to take out Boxer for the Senate

[Redcloak]

She's needed where she is until the war's over.

[RLK]

SHOULD CONDI RICE RUN FOR GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA ?

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That's the best idea I have heard in some time.

[fight_truth_decay]

She had been asked to run for the Senate and turned it down.

[section9]

You know, I have a hunch that just hit me.

You are all aware that Condi "agreed" with Rove, according to a deliberately floated rumor, that she would go for the governorship in 2006. Now the Gray Davis regime is unraveling before our very eyes, and people are expecting her or Ahnuld to run for the governorship.

But hold on a moment, why run Condi for the governorship when she would be held responsible by the voters for California's recovery? The Common Tator has indicated that the recall will turn into a huge trap set by the CalDems who control the Assembly; nothing will get done, the state could go bankrupt. That's what Condi or Ahnuld would have to preside over. Condi is enough of an asset to Bush to be held in reserve for the Vice Presidency or to be used somewhere else:

In the Senate, to crowd Hillary off the stage.

Rice in the Senate would vault into the leadership as a Republican conservative. She would give battle to Hillary every day, and crowd Her Heinous in ways that the Hildebeast cannot comprehend.

Hillary is quite good at disarming men. Another, smarter woman? I don't think so.

Again, she could have a go at Babs Boxer. It all depends on what she decides to do this year.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[TheAngryClam]

Apart from her statements in support of affirmative action in academic contexts, she'd be the candidate I'd support in a Davis recall.

Let's see who else there is for the GOP:

Arnold: If he runs, he's going to win. That's reality. However, he's a total RINO, so I won't be a part of that landslide.

Bill Simon: Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, and ran the most moronic campaign in the history of California politics. And that's saying something.

Darrell Issa: Willing to plunk down the money, and has a 94 lifetime rating from the American Conservative Institute, both positives. However, has a large number of rumors of both his anti-Israel attitudes, and general psychosis (e.g. burning down his own business for the insurance money). Additionally, needs to make up for his lack of statewide recognition.

Tom McClintock: Undecided if he would run. Extremely cheap and proud of it. However, that cheapness will possibly interfere with his ability to fund a high-level gubernatorial campaign. Additionally, he can't fund-raise his way out of a paper bag.

Nick Jesson: I think I hear the UN helicopters...

I'll take Condi- statewide and national recognition, friendly with the Bush administration and national Republican leadership (unlike some others I listed), generally quite conservative, and a lot smarter than most politicians.

[Hugin]

generally quite conservative,

On national defense issues, yes. On domestic issues, from what little she's said she seems pretty much in line with Arnold, pro-affirmative action and pro-choice on abortion.

[HatSteel]

Should Rice run?

No. Because Bush needs here more than California does.

No. Because Bush's cabinet needs to balance the strong personalities of Rumsfeld and Rove.

No. Because there are other candidates who can run in Calif., and a Condi Rice Calif. STILL won't go for Bush in 2004 which is just 1.5 years away.

Yes. Because it would be a good opportunity for her.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

No. She should run for Senate. Rudi Giuliani should run against Hillary in 98. He's the only one who can beat her.

[fight_truth_decay]

She would give battle to Hillary every day, and crowd Her Heinous in ways that the Hildebeast cannot comprehend.

..wouldn't that be great coverage...and the debates that would follow.

[Common Tator]

I doubt very seriously if Davis will be removed.

It seems to me that the judges who refused to allow implementation of referendums that were passed easily by voters in california, would not have much trouble overturning a recall petition for Davis. People who thought the Torch waited too long to drop out of the race in New Jersey did not consider what the courts would do.

We now know that no name Democrats are going to go on a recall ballot. They have all rejected that move. That leaves the recall ballot if it occurs to Republicans.

There is no way that the courts will decide the validity of suits filed by Davis challenging the Recall petitions before the fall election deadline. That puts an election, if it happens in the Democratic primary.

By the spring of 2004, there would be no reason for a name Republican to put his name on the ballot to server a thankless blame filled 2.5 year term.

Understand that Bush does not want Davis removed. And if you don't think Bush & Company can dry up money sources ask Bill Simon how that works. No name Republican will take on Bush by running in the recall in 2004. AS someone said... it would not be prudent.

With nothing but dead meat Republicans on the recall ballot, and a next spring election, Davis will likely survive the recall. Davis just has to make the choice the terrible Davis and the even worse Republicans. That means the centrists will do what they did in 2002. They will not vote in a Democratic primary. That means only Democrats and Republicans will vote. The Demoratic turn out will be large because it is a Democratic presidential primary. The Republican turn out will be small, because lots of the media will pretend that Davis will easily lose. That way they can act happily surprised that the voters reafirm their support for Davis... even after terribly vicioius attacks by EVIL Republicans.

The mainstream media will make Davis the 800 lb Gorilla who defeated the VRWC not once but twice.

With enemies like the right wing political amateurs in California, Davis does not need many friends. He does not have them either.

[SteveH]

The Senate is problematic because so few presidents have come from the U.S. Senate. So Condi's chances for a shot at the presidency in 2008 if she took the Senate path as a stepping stone. I am not sure which president last came from the Senate; perhaps JFK (casual reflection only, YMMV). Consider what happened in recent history with Dole.

Conversely, state governorships have long been recognized as good springboards for the presidency. Personally I think this constitutes a weakness in the system, especially in consideration of how it was exploited by Bill Clinton.

There is no shortage of Republicans in the Senate who can (and should) take on Hillary if and when the need arises in debate. At any rate, if she is constrained to the minority caucus she is relegated almost to figurehead status.

IMHO, the best shot for a Condi presidency is a Condi governorship. This is regardless of whether a Condi governorship/presidency is a good thing or a bad thing...

[Dr Warmoose]

Good analysis. I believe that the recall Davis movement is a total mistake by Conservatives and by their lessers in the GOP. You are correct that the Demoncats controlling the Assembly will torpedo her political career more effectively than the Dems destroyed Robert Bork. The very process of electing a governor through this recall vote is basically demanding that name recognition be the primary if not only consideration within the voting booth, and quite frankly, few people know who the current vice president is let alone know who Condi is.

The Majority of California residents continually vote for suicide. I think California is a State that needs to suffer the consequences for its serial irresponsibilities and political malfeaseance. Calfornia is a State filled with the worst kind of vile reprobates, who constantly vote so selfishly that their continued existance depends on the goodwill of the neighboring states. The Producers and the handfuls of decent people should leave and bring their talents to the saner States and let the illegal aliens, the perverts, the leeches and other lowlifes completely destroy the State before that social cancer metastasizes the rest of this country.

Califoria deserves Davis as its governor, and quite frankly his tax increases are necessary in the grand scheme of things. California built its financial model under the Producer's Pay system typified by "Atlas Shrugged" and the Dagney Taggerts who insist on staying there. Only Davis is able to undo the damage that he has done since anyone else will likely experience the wrath of the Demoncat Party, a party that has long established their allegiances to Power at the expense of Liberty and Prosperity. The Assembly will more likely do the "right thing" because of their desire to maintain power rather than any care or concern over the taxpayer-citizen. So if they recognize that certain belt-tightening measures need to take place in order to administer some life in this comatose body, they will prescribe hemlock if a non-Demoncat was in the governership , whereas they might recommend something not so lethal if a Demoncat stays ensconced in power.

This is a long-winded way of saying "Condi, for the sake of your own political career and personal integrity, Stay the Hell away from California politics".

[Dr Warmoose]

IMHO, the best shot for a Condi presidency is a Condi governorship. This is regardless of whether a Condi governorship/presidency is a good thing or a bad thing...

A governorship anywhere other than California perhaps.

But for the ultimate exposure, it must be the vice-presidency.