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its goingto get worse before it gets better now that the judge ruled that they can use plea bargians to get around the constitution

a drug war carol

1 posted on 06/23/2003 1:37:11 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32
...memories...
2 posted on 06/23/2003 1:39:25 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: *Wod_list
Calling all dopers...
3 posted on 06/23/2003 1:48:54 PM PDT by newgeezer (Where there is demand, there will ALWAYS be supply to meet it. Thus, the supply-side WOD fails.)
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To: freepatriot32
"can be enforced although it bans legal playthings like giant pacifiers"

all the while our borders remain wide open for terrorists. But those dastardly giant pacifiers are going down!! (sarcasm off)

4 posted on 06/23/2003 1:50:42 PM PDT by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: freepatriot32
It amazes me that the government can ban things like PACIFIERS and GLOW STICKS from a party simply because some people use them to "enhance" their drug trips (translation: when you're wasted, they're neat to look at) and yet I can still buy a "tobacco" pipe with built in resin brush or a pack of ZigZags from the local Quickie Mart and nobody bats an eye. The drug laws in this country make no sense!
5 posted on 06/23/2003 1:52:14 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: freepatriot32
The government really didn't ban the otherwise legal items. As part of this company's settlement, it agreed to not have those "things" around. Another club can still have them, though the Feds will be looking at those places as potential drug dens, because the Feds regard them as "paraphernalia" associated with illegal drug activities.

If the Feds started arresting people and making similar plea agreements with even a hint that there was a pattern, then the plantiff have a very good case ($$$) of misconduct.

I don't see the slippery slope yet, though it could be just around the corner. (To mix a metaphor)
6 posted on 06/23/2003 2:24:22 PM PDT by playball0 (Fortune favors the bold)
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To: freepatriot32; jmc813
plea agreement that has a criminal defendant violating the general public's rights

It's a silly@ssed restriction---but the general public has no "right" to do anything in particular on the defendant's property.

7 posted on 06/23/2003 2:27:25 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
8 posted on 06/23/2003 2:49:01 PM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: freepatriot32
Isn't a rave at it's core illegal trespassing and destruction of private property.
13 posted on 06/23/2003 3:02:39 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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