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To: freepatriot32
The problem is that one can't move away from this PC crap. "Zero tolerance" is a curse that the Demoncrap-infested NEA has pushed, and politicians buy into because of percieved "threats" which have been propagandized into the "Merican Pipple" since the mid '80s.

My wife, who happens to work for the justice system, now tells me that overworked District Justices now have to dispense jurisprudence in such inane things as "Smoking Court" (yep, smoke a damn cigarette, go to court) "Fighting Court" (a real good name if I ever saw one, and this is actually for the fighting that DOESNT happen in court) and when all else is left, "Zero Tolerance" court (anything left out of the first two.) Sounds a bit like The Gulag Archipelago doesn't it????

We have become such a wimped out, hand wringing bunch of nothing that these "Zero Tolerance" laws get passed faster and faster, simply because previous "Zero Tolerance" laws have created a condition equivalent to caging wild animals in small cage, and letting them pace aimlessly in circles 24/7 until something snaps, violence occurs, creating an immediate need for further "Zero Tolerance" laws. Self perpetuating insanity, pure and simple, with a real hefty dose of Communism/Leftism/Liberalism mixed in, dosed with heavy amounts of Ritalin, and stirred with the shrill rhetoric of the anti-self defense bunch. Parents are not allowed to discipline their children any more, and the kids damn well know it... parents have been sent to jail for spanking their obstreperous youngster, as a matter of fact, in a lot of this "Zero tolerance" s**t, parents have been sent to jail for the actions of their children, and the children have simply been released, scot free, to do whatever the hell kids do nowadays when the parents aren't around. Great justice Huh?

I wish I knew what the answer was. First, repeal all the "Zero Tolerance" laws and let kids socialize the way they have for all eternity, by interaction with other kids. Those who do sure don't pile up a bunch of inner hostility because they are arbitrarily restrained from harmless activity. Second, the NEA has got to be broken, and broken well, so we don't have the proverbial 800 lb (Demoncratic/Communist/Leftist/Liberal) gorilla basically running all the educational process. Third, we have to restore some legitimacy to parental dicipline, and not make criminals out of parents who have a hard enough time trying to "tame" their youngsters, who have been caged and forbidden enough to make crazed the most docile being.

Can we do this without universal homeschooling, which in today's economic conditions is not really feasable? I don't know, but there has to be a fundamental shift in education, to remove the insidious slide of the last 35 years (note, I set the "watershed" year for the start of the nonsense as '68, which would be basically, the first year Colleges and Universities graduated a "counterculture" class, the year of the 2nd original sin, the GCA'68, and the height of the looting, burning, and insanity which damn near burned the heart out of this Republic. (Note: I feel fortunate that I was able to "witness this from outside, as I spent that particular period of my life serving in the military, and only found out the real truth much later, after my return home).

At any rate, the insanity will simply continue to get worse, unless immediate measures are taken to stop this silly PC crap in the bud. I realize NJ is a liberal infested state, of the first water, but then so is much of the Northeast, and I see no real movement down the sane and correct path as long as the people get their "bread and circuses" (Zero Tolerance). It is just too simple to pass blame off on others when the laws enable same, and most parents just don't give a damn what their kids do, or don't do any more. What is seen coming into the justice system earlier and earlier, proves this point, and the untenability of the hopeless "Zero Tolerance" escalation.

Keep the Faith For Freedom & GOD BLESS AMERICA.

Greg

19 posted on 06/23/2003 1:44:53 PM PDT by gwmoore (As the Russian manual for the Nagant Revolver states: "Target Practice: "at the deserter, FIRE")
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To: gwmoore
The problem is that one can't move away from this PC crap.

Yes you can.

It's called withdrawing the kids from the POS system (that would be "Public Operated Schools" system...) and homeschooling them.

45 posted on 06/23/2003 4:43:45 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: gwmoore
Second, the NEA has got to be broken, and broken well, so we don't have the proverbial 800 lb (Demoncratic/Communist/Leftist/Liberal) gorilla basically running all the educational process.

Separation of School and State. End compulsory education, government certification of teachers - all of it.

53 posted on 06/23/2003 10:17:34 PM PDT by secretagent
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