Canadian Firm Prints Harry Potter on Green Pages (Laugh-till-you-die Alert)

Environment News Service (ENS) ^ | June 20, 2003 | Some Green Moron

[Comus]

Paper machines are wonderful places to grow microbial lifeforms.(Warm and wet.) If recycled pulp is used, it requires the use of some of the most poisonous substances known to man, in large quantities, to keep microbial comtamination managable. Papermaking with recycle pulp is much more chemically intense than with virgin pulp. De-inking also requires chemicals, end result, all that isothiazolin, glutaraldehyde, and quaternary amine winds up in the environment. I know, I sell millions of dollars of biocides a year. I love when a mill decides to use recycle pulp.

[TruthNtegrity]

Firs this - Paper machines are wonderful places to grow microbial lifeforms.(Warm and wet.) If recycled pulp is used, it requires the use of some of the most poisonous substances known to man, in large quantities, to keep microbial comtamination managable. Papermaking with recycle pulp is much more chemically intense than with virgin pulp. De-inking also requires chemicals, end result, all that isothiazolin, glutaraldehyde, and quaternary amine winds up in the environment. I know, I sell millions of dollars of biocides a year. I love when a mill decides to use recycle pulp.

And second - trees are the best example of harvesting for use. I don't espouse using "ancient" wood, like redwoods, I assume, but growing trees, harvesting them and using them for paper is the best example of renewable resources America has. Paper companies manage the forests the best of any company utilizing any of our natural resources.

Printing on recycled paper, as "Comus" has commented is incredibly chemical intensive. The paper companies have it right - harvest and planting new trees are a finely tuned balance they have perfected. People get all crazy about "recycling" without finding out about the chemical cost. We all need to educate ourselves on what is energy- and CHEMICAL-conservation.

Using plastic grocery bags, and recycling them, means that they are used in shoes, packaging and other reusable products. Using paper and recyling it means toxic chemicals used in the process, to get rid of microbes in the paper products.

Choose carefully at the grocery store on your next visit. And, oh yeah, at the bookstore!

[cake_crumb]

What's that fuzzy thing on the head of the girl on the far left? A fur derby? Or is that her hair?? What's recycling got to do with freeing pot?

[cake_crumb]

Recycling is a great thing. There's nothing wrong with it, though the term 'tree free' is an outright lie. Recycled paper was still originally made from trees.

Raincoast is NOT the first compant on print books on recycled paper. O'Reilly, a publisher of programming textbooks, has been printing on recycled paper for years. Raincoast may be the first CANADIAN publisher to do so, but they have hardly transformed the publishing industry.

The article is ignorant, blatant propaganda, meant to remind the population of the need to protect the environment from the evil logging companies and help them to forget their economic woes and the growing disgust with the government.

[cake_crumb]

"You need to spend some time in an old growth forest on the west coast to appreciate what it's about"

Paper companies don't cut old growth forest. They utilize tree farms (frequently the targets of ELF arsonists, BTW) for that. Fast-growing pulp wood trees. It's cheaper, they own the ground where their trees are planted, and the trees are replaced as soon as they're cut, so that the next crop can be guaranteed.

[cake_crumb]

"Plant stuff while they sit up in a tree"

Heheheh. Great idea.

Most of the loggers I know love the woods and love the trees. Some people will be shocked to know that loggers know a tad about growing trees, as well as cutting them down.

Take oaks. Acorns are very hard to sprout. Hubby's crew went to their respective homes one evening bearing handsful of acorns. To sprout in our houses and plant in a year. Yes, about half of them did sprout, and yes, all of us did plant them. Uh...ok, so one is them is in our back yard...we like oaks, but have mostly cherry and spruce on our property. It's about 7 feet tall this year and has slowed down. Another thing about oaks is their slow growth...people want fast results, and so few people tend to plant them.

We will not live to see that tree reach maturity. But our grandkids will.

These guys do things like this all the time. Trees are a renewable resource. The more we plant, the more we have.

[goodnesswins]

NOT OLD trees!

[headsonpikes]

"935,000 books...30,000 trees"

A little back of the envelope and we get 31 books per tree. I've seen a lot of trees; and I'm prepared to say that trees that unproductive of paper are not 'Ancient Forest Monarchs'.

I think we're talking weed species and pecker-poles....or else total disinformation.

These watermelon phonies are lifetime kindergartners; they think in feelings.

[BradyLS]

I've been to a paper mill in Texarkana. They bring whole logs of freshly cut loblolly pine and use every atom of it. Anything of the pine not used for paper (typically the bark) is used as fuel for the plant.

[cyborg]

thanks... I think one can be conservative and be interested in maximizing resources. That does not mean becoming a monkey wrenching nut.

[TC Rider]

The best thing to recycle is trashed paper.

No, the best thing to recycle is Hillary's Lying History.

[TC Rider]

Canada, GIVE ME A BREAK. Pulp wood for paper is a CROP, like corn. Mahogany, teak and redwoods are not used for paper.

Quality paper is judged by linen content, another crop.

One has to guess the Canucks are idiots or propagandists, or most likely some combination of both.

[Coleus]

What a bunch of fools. It's certainly is a laugh alert.

[Humidston]

This is PC HOGWASH, this re-cycling and all the rest of this globalist claptrap!

In a former life, I married into a lumber family... One of the largest in the S'West. A tree is a PLANT or a CROP, like a stalk of corn or a soy bean plant. People who are in the business of producting lumber REPLACE WHAT THEY USE - sometimes 2 x 1 - and they don't clear cut. That's stupid. Why clear cut and set up erosion on your own "farm," thus destroying your own crops, thus putting you out of business??

And those pre-pubescent twit children pictured above need to get inside and study their school work instead of worrying about weeds and nose rings.

[Humidston]

>>I think one can be conservative and be interested in maximizing resources<<

And why would you believe someone who lives off the production of good quality lumber would do less? Lumbermen were interested in maximizing old growth before we were even born.

[Humidston]

Not just you, CyberAnt. I'm looking and I'm shocked that FR conservatives would buy into this junk too. Mind-boggling!

[freedom9]

I know that.
There was comments made about wasre, utilization, renewal, etc.
I just wanted to put a word in about preservation of old growth.

[speekinout]

Paper companies don't cut old growth forest. They utilize tree farms

Yes. My mother's family used to own a tree farm. It was managed by a paper company. They'd cut trees and plant replacements in a cycle that suited their needs, and the family got a check for the profits each year.
The paper company kept it going nicely from the 1920's (I believe) until the early 80's, when we sold it because there were just too many heirs to deal with. It probably is still doing fine.

Tree farms are great for paper mills and Christmas trees. I think the people who are against using trees for any purpose must be city dwellers who rarely see one.

[speekinout]

Paper companies don't cut old growth forest. They utilize tree farms

Yes. My mother's family used to own a tree farm. It was managed by a paper company. They'd cut trees and plant replacements in a cycle that suited their needs, and the family got a check for the profits each year.
The paper company kept it going nicely from the 1920's (I believe) until the early 80's, when we sold it because there were just too many heirs to deal with. It probably is still doing fine.

Tree farms are great for paper mills and Christmas trees. I think the people who are against using trees for any purpose must be city dwellers who rarely see one.

[goodnesswins]

Well....I doubt loblolly's can be used for much else than paper....if they could make more money using them for lumber for houses, etc....they would. Which was my point. Old growth is not used for paper, unless it's the part of it not able to be used for other products.