[liberalnot]

clinton moved to the center in order to beat bush pere.

if clinton had not done so, he would not have won the 1992 election.

that's what a "new democrat" is.

as the article states, clinton was expert at dealing with the democrat left. now, they're back and the coalition is falling apart.

don't you think that hillary wants the dems to fall apart in 2004? obviously, the clinton-pukes do not want another democrat to win in 2004.

[goldstategop]

The Democrats problem is they need to appeal to moderate voters to win a general election but they need to also cater to the liberals who dominate the party's primaries. What wins liberals' hearts stinks with the general public. Its trying to square the circle. If Democrats appeal only to their base, which is around 20% of the electorate, they will never win a general election. In other words, if the Democrats insist upon being ivory pure, they'll be a powerless minority. That's what the debate in the party is all about: to reconcile dogma with the fact there aren't and will never be, enough liberals to get a Democrat elected in this country outside of California and Hawaii to public office.