THE SLAUGHTERING OF THE IRANIANS.....

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It was another hot muggy day in southern Louisiana as we sought shelter from the angry day in the Our Lady Queen of Heaven Library. Myself and three other red blooded fiery Cajun American sixth graders were all huddled around a picture of Mickey Mouse shooting the bird and saying f**k Iran. We thought that was funny. I, of course, wondered aloud why we haven’t attacked Iran already. The rest of the memory fades into oblivion, not too soon. Which brings me to my point. What if we would have invaded Iran and did what militaries did back then to the country and the people?

Interesting question in light of what is happening today. If we are to believe the reports about what is happening today then these people are struggling for an American style government based on freedom. Would these people be doing the same if they would have fought a war against us? Would they be willing to risk their lives based on what they see coming out of western media sources? I’m not so sure. I know if I were them and that would have happened, I would not be even listening to anything coming out of the west much less American. I would be interested in some other solution to my Theocracy problem.

None the less it is something to think about. I know that what ifs are such a pain in the neck usually because of the sensational aspect of the replies but this one deserves merit. I also think that it validates our Christian belief that we need to show restraint in the face of intentional provocation. It also shows how hard it is to turn the other cheek as governmental policy. If we are to believe that our restraint help to move this revolution along the road to self determination for a race of people, whose days are just as hot and angry, then in some small way shouldn’t our restraint in the face of evil take credit. If our policy is based on the biblical tenant that I learned at Our Lady Queen of Heaven is practical then what? Pacifism? I don’t think so. Pacifism is stupid, and because we didn’t invade does not mean that our policy wasn’t pacifist in the least. So what are we and other governments who are based on self-determination to take from this lesson? Food for thought and at this point I would like to hear your thoughts.

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I hope to get some good feedback on this from some thoughtful individuals. I would also like to thank you for spending the time to read the article.

[Bon mots]

You're a kinder, gentler soul than I. After they ransacked the US Embassy in 1979, I wanted to slaughter them. You would only slaghter them.

1979 was a disgraceful year. The Mullahs held Americans for 444 days. Jimmuh Carter dropped to the floor, curled up into a little ball like a wounded puppy whimpered and wet himself.

They will never like us. They will never be democratic. They must feel our sword.

[Onelifetogive]

How about "The Slaghtering of the English Language"?

[Bon mots]

puppy whimpered = puppy, whimpered

[Onelifetogive]

They will never like us. They will never be democratic. They must feel our sword.

I disagree. I have met some very normal, reasonable Iranians.

[grapeape]

Relax guys.

[waRNmother.armyboots]

There was a phone call to Rush Limbaugh today from a female Iranian student. She gushed with thanks to the US for its moral support and stated they only wanted our moral support. Was quite a phone call.

[Bon mots]

I disagree. I have met some very normal, reasonable Iranians.

In Iran?

[judicial meanz]

Interesting thought.

I was in the US Military in 1979. We had some Iranian sailors who were training on some old submarines that the US had sold the Shah. They had not taken possession of the submarines, and the sale was not completed.

When the revolution happened, the USN chained the submarines ( repeat ..chained them) to the piers and the sailors were told not to leave. They were scared to death of going home and being executed, so a lot of them disappeared.

The majority of the foaming at the mouth revolutionaries in Iran who instigated and participated in the Islamic revolution died in the subsequent Iran-Iraq war. Not many 40 somethings are alive in modern Iran, but their children are numerous. Their children are the ones crying out for this revolution.

I dont know if we ever would have invaded Iran. Saddam beat us to it, and the resulting war between Iran and Iraq was costly to both sides. If we would have intervened, it would have been a regional war, and in the post Vietnam world, that wouldnt have been very welcome.

[Bon mots]

There was a phone call to Rush Limbaugh today from a female Iranian student. She gushed with thanks to the US for its moral support and stated they only wanted our moral support. Was quite a phone call.

Yep. Just wait until we blow up their nuke plants (which we must do.) They're gonna love us.

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Exactly. I was wondering about the outcome of the younger generation however. In your gut, do you feel that they would have the attitude they are displaying now if we had invaded and what does that say to our philosophy? Were on earth do we go from here?

[grapeape]

Is her gushing a reward for a policy of restraint? How much restraint? How can any of these policies be quantified? All very hard questions.

[judicial meanz]

In my heart, I believe we would have faced a Holy War.

Khomeini was a very respected religious leader to the Iranians, as well as a mullah. He was one step from elevation to the status of Jin in the Islamic faith.

If we had invaded, he most certainly would have called a Holy War and we would have had imports from most Middle Eastern coutries coming to fight the infidel Americans.In addition, I believe the Soviets would have had a hand as well, and intervened on the side of Iran.

However, we had idiotic leadership ( Carter, Ramsey Clark, etc) and our military was big on paper, but gutted internally. We would have had a bad year or two until we rebuilt, but we would have won.

I think the Iranians at the time would have hated our guts and fought us to the bitter end, just like they did Iraq. No one fights for anything like they fight for religion.

[waRNmother.armyboots]

To be completely honest, I am not educated on our policies toward Iran although I do realize that it has been one of restraint. I think her word of thanks had to do with the radio and governmental support on the world stage for the revolution and that we haven't sent troops in. The people in Iran seem to think that they can handle this and I would be for a "wait and see" approach at this time. Our troops are spread pretty thin as it is.

[7 x 77]

With 25 years of hindsight, they would not see this supposed war as an attack but rather as the point their lives turned around. They would have had more than a generation of freedom and prosperity to cushion any hurt.

[SW6906]

6000+ Iranians gathered for a candle-light vigil in support and sympathy with America shortly after 9-11. I believe it was the only sympathetic display in all of the Arab world.....

I don't have time to provide a link to the story, as I have to run right now. I'll check back later.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I disagree. I have met some very normal, reasonable Iranians.

I agree. I work with a gentleman named Shaban who is from Iran. He is one of the kindest, gentlest men I have ever met. He is quick with a smile and has a wry sense of humor that he dispenses with a cheerful glint in his eye. He's dashingly handsome and quite the ladies man.

I am proud to call him a friend.

[RaceBannon]

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That is my answer to your question

[RaceBannon]

Yep. Just wait until we blow up their nuke plants (which we must do.) They're gonna love us.

I have been writing to anIranian man, who is now a Freeper, for the last 2 years.

Yes, they DO want us to bomb them.

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So it seems that what ever our policy turned out to be whether intentional or not we have gotten a positive result in Iran. We need to “bottle” this policy so it can be used again.