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Kenyon Martin: Race Man Costs His Team the NBA Championship
A Different Drummer ^ | 20 June 2003 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 06/20/2003 11:34:18 AM PDT by mrustow

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Somehow, I doubt you'll see this analysis in the lamestream press.
1 posted on 06/20/2003 11:34:21 AM PDT by mrustow
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2 posted on 06/20/2003 11:38:03 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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3 posted on 06/20/2003 11:38:57 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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4 posted on 06/20/2003 11:39:41 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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5 posted on 06/20/2003 11:40:28 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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Martin was criticising KvH for not TRYING, not for missing shots, and he was hardly alone in his assessment.
6 posted on 06/20/2003 11:40:38 AM PDT by babble-on
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7 posted on 06/20/2003 11:41:13 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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8 posted on 06/20/2003 11:42:16 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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I remember as a child listening (before TV) to Amos & Andy on the radio, loved it.
9 posted on 06/20/2003 11:43:40 AM PDT by blam
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This guy forgets how Bill Laimbeer played the game. He was a cheap shot artist, a regular Michelangelo. I loved it because I was a big Pistons fan, but he threw so many Martin-type fouls, and then whined about it.

He was something else.

10 posted on 06/20/2003 11:43:54 AM PDT by Benrand
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Martin was criticising KvH for not TRYING, not for missing shots, and he was hardly alone in his assessment.

Who were the other Nets players who criticized Van Horn? This is news to me.

And who are the black players Martin has criticized "for not TRYING," or do only white players fail to play hard enough?

11 posted on 06/20/2003 11:45:09 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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I remember as a child listening (before TV) to Amos & Andy on the radio, loved it.

Apparently, black folks did, too. Or did the author get that wrong?

12 posted on 06/20/2003 11:46:24 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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Didn't Kidd once say something about Van Horn's defense?
13 posted on 06/20/2003 11:47:04 AM PDT by LanPB01
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We ought to give Kenyon Martin a break. His predecessor on the Nets, Jason Williams, is currently awaiting trial on manslaughter charges for killing a Mexican limousine driver at Williams' sprawling estate in New Jersey a couple of years ago.
14 posted on 06/20/2003 11:48:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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"By the time game six was played, Martin was reportedly recovered from the flu. No matter; he shot only 3-for-23 from the field, for four points."

If this is true, he would have had at least six points, not four. No big deal, but just to be a stickler. I live in NYC and this guy is a creep. He's a thug. I believe he played his college ball in Cincinnati which has been shown to be one of the dirtiest programs in college in terms of NCAA violations and discrepancies.

15 posted on 06/20/2003 11:48:26 AM PDT by thefactor
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This guy forgets how Bill Laimbeer played the game. He was a cheap shot artist, a regular Michelangelo. I loved it because I was a big Pistons fan, but he threw so many Martin-type fouls, and then whined about it.

He was something else.

Ah, yes Bill "Flop Artist" Laimbeer. He's been out of the game for about ten years, now. I'm not so sure a Laimbeer would survive in the league today -- and I'm not talking about the refs.

16 posted on 06/20/2003 11:48:30 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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Sorry, but this doesn't nearly come close to proving Martin's "racism." Don't get me wrong. I teach in a mixed-race school (about 50%-50%), and I see attitudes among the students there that defy belief. I think much of the black community has an underlying, subsurface rasicm the equal of anything you could find in the Jim Crow South. It's become so natural that they don't even notice it.

But the above article doesn't even approach justifying the claim that Martin's actions are based on racial bias. His actions are based on the fact that he is an arrogant, self-centered thug.

17 posted on 06/20/2003 11:50:03 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (This tagline does not discriminate in any fashion [well, except against the letter q].)
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(In one game, when Ginobilli made a reverse layup, one of the TV announcers reacted by calling him “unorthodox.” In the past 16 or 17 years, I’ve seen black players attempt a few thousand reverses, without an announcer ever calling them “unorthodox.”)

I remember that. That's a very good point.

18 posted on 06/20/2003 11:51:03 AM PDT by HurkinMcGurkin
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Didn't Kidd once say something about Van Horn's defense?

I don't know, but I do recall that Kidd's predecessor, Stephon Marbury was known to have a blind spot, when it came to passing the ball to Van Horn. In recent years, a lot of black players have developed blind spots, when it comes to passing the ball to white team mates, even great ones.

19 posted on 06/20/2003 11:51:17 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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