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OK, I'm going to take a big chance here and try to explain this. All I ask is that you first look at the law, and then comment. If you cannot find the law, then please contact me privately and I would be pleased to show you how.

Pennsylvania law (where I lived before she married me) says that one has to have a social security number in order to make application. I have none, neither does she. We have a religious objection to the inventorying of human flesh. Please don't flame me for my beliefs. I am entitled to them, Sherbert v Verner, and Wisconsin v Yoder. See also the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, codified in Title 42 United States Code.

So we cannot get a driver's license or even photo ID here in Pennsylvania. I use a photo ID issued by my church and we also have identification that we made, essentially an Affidavit of Positive Identification, that is signed by us and two witnesses before a notary and sealed, then laminated. I have no problems using this for banking or air travel.

I could address this matter in more detail, but instead, first see 42 USC 405(c)(2)(B)(i)(I) to see that only ALIENS applying for permanent residency are required to get a number in order to work in the United States, it does not say citizens. See also Railroad Retirement Bd v Alton RR Co to see that Congress has no authority to compel citizens to participate in National Socialism.

Also, reference US v Butler (overturned on other grounds) that the taxes people pay to participate in a benefits program must be put into the general fund, and cannot be set aside in some other kind of trust fund, but that is specific to Socialist Insecurity.

So how do I work? Look at 26 USC 6041(a) and (c) and show me a requirement for an SSAN. Now look at 26 CFR 301.6109-1(c) and look at the "foreign persons" in (b) that are referenced.

The motions that I generally file contend that it is this "resident alien" that is being regulated, not me and people like me. There is a an incredible difference in the law between citizens and resident aliens, see Vattel's Law of Nations. Also, look at Fong Tue Ying v United States, which upheld the Chinese Exclusion Acts. Recall that in the West of the last century, the railroads were built primarily by Chinese immigrants. When their work was done, Congress passed legislation requiring resident aliens working in the United States to be registered. When they lost their jobs, they were deported without any modicum of due process of law - no hearing, just a summary deportation. Look at the dissenting opinions by Field and Fuller in this case to see how egregious they thought this was.

And so it began, over 110 years ago.

I guess that without an SSAN, she and I cannot be the "resident" aliens provided for in the laws. The next question is: Since only "resident" aliens have to get a d/l, and "resident" aliens have to have an SSAN, and I do not have an SSAN, then I cannot be a "resident" alien for the purposes of this statute.

Please remember that your failure to be informed of this does not make me a wacko.

OK, I'm going to take a big chance here and try to explain this. All I ask is that you first look at the law, and then comment. If you cannot find the law, then please contact me privately and I would be pleased to show you how.

Pennsylvania law (where I lived before she married me) says that one has to have a social security number in order to make application. I have none, neither does she. We have a religious objection to the inventorying of human flesh. Please don't flame me for my beliefs. I am entitled to them, Sherbert v Verner, and Wisconsin v Yoder. See also the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, codified in Title 42 United States Code.

So we cannot get a driver's license or even photo ID here in Pennsylvania. I use a photo ID issued by my church and we also have identification that we made, essentially an Affidavit of Positive Identification, that is signed by us and two witnesses before a notary and sealed, then laminated. I have no problems using this for banking or air travel.

I could address this matter in more detail, but instead, first see 42 USC 405(c)(2)(B)(i)(I) to see that only ALIENS applying for permanent residency are required to get a number in order to work in the United States, it does not say citizens. See also Railroad Retirement Bd v Alton RR Co to see that Congress has no authority to compel citizens to participate in National Socialism.

Also, reference US v Butler (overturned on other grounds) that the taxes people pay to participate in a benefits program must be put into the general fund, and cannot be set aside in some other kind of trust fund, but that is specific to Socialist Insecurity.

So how do I work? Look at 26 USC 6041(a) and (c) and show me a requirement for an SSAN. Now look at 26 CFR 301.6109-1(c) and look at the "foreign persons" in (b) that are referenced.

The motions that I generally file contend that it is this "resident alien" that is being regulated, not me and people like me. There is a an incredible difference in the law between citizens and resident aliens, see Vattel's Law of Nations. Also, look at Fong Tue Ying v United States, which upheld the Chinese Exclusion Acts. Recall that in the West of the last century, the railroads were built primarily by Chinese immigrants. When their work was done, Congress passed legislation requiring resident aliens working in the United States to be registered. When they lost their jobs, they were deported without any modicum of due process of law - no hearing, just a summary deportation. Look at the dissenting opinions by Field and Fuller in this case to see how egregious they thought this was.

And so it began, over 110 years ago.

guess that without an SSAN, she and I cannot be the "resident" aliens provided for in the laws. The next question is: Since only "resident" aliens have to get a d/l, and "resident" aliens have to have an SSAN, and I do not have an SSAN, then I cannot be a "resident" alien for the purposes of this statute.

Please remember that your failure to be informed of this does not make me a wacko.

Man, I thought I had heard everything. This is the absolute DUMBEST argument I have ever heard! Do you pay taxes? Where did you get your car? Do you have a line of credit? Jeez Louise! I am dumfounded!