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To: MEG33
Guilty of spying for an ALLY. We were on the same side as the USSR. Spying for a ALLY doesn't get the death penalty ... unless of course, you are JEWISH. For that -- 10,001 Volts.

Did we HANG Lafayette for spying for the FRENCH? I am sure he brought back reports to the Court of France our military preparedness and abilities. When was the last time we hung a Brit or Canadian?

I do not see the difference of those so-called "patriots" willing to twist the Constitution's provision for Treason into a noose fit to hang Jews and an Arafat kiss-up.

22 posted on 06/19/2003 6:03:44 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Have you really studied the history of this or assuming?Remember Korea?
26 posted on 06/19/2003 6:10:46 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: bvw
"Guilty of spying for an ALLY. We were on the same side as the USSR."

You could make a weak case that the Soviets were our allies and on the same side until the end of WWII; but, even during the war the US realized that the Soviets were more of an enemy than the Nazis.

HOWEVER, Julius and Ethel were tried in the 1950's, during the cold war, when the Soviets were our arch-enemies. They weren't spying for an ally by any stretch, and the fact that they were Jewish is not relevant.

Bottom line? We were definitely not on the same side as the Soviets during this period and history shows that the two were stone cold guilty. They paid the price, and Ethel's brother should have also....

28 posted on 06/19/2003 6:17:21 PM PDT by yooper
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To: bvw
I don’t want to start anything, but the government seemed to be very careful to avoid any appearance of anti-Semitism. All, if not most of the government lawyers, and the judge were all Jews.
The Soviet Union by that time was no ally of the US. The Rosenberg’s were communist spies that’s why they got the juice. The fact that they were Jewish had nothing to do with it. IMHO.
37 posted on 06/19/2003 6:46:23 PM PDT by dix
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To: bvw
Guilty of spying for an ALLY. We were on the same side as the USSR.

While we were on the same side as the USSR, they were not an ally. They would have been more than content to let the West be defeated by the Germans, if Hitler hadn't gone stupid and attacked them, before at least finishing off England. At best we were cooperating with each other, at a very high level, quite unlike the integrated effort we had with the Brits and the various "Free" governments in exile, whom we were integrated with militarily.

That said, my Uncle got to take a couple of dips in the Norht Atlantic, in attempting to provide supplies to the USSR, and thus to help them kill more Germans and tie down more German units. By the time of the Rosenbergs' treachery, it was quite clear that we and the Soviets would be post war adversaries.

61 posted on 06/19/2003 8:06:53 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: bvw
Guilty of spying for an ALLY.

Does an alley intern your military personel who happen to stray onto it's terroritory, perhaps forced to do so, due to battle damage either from a third party (the Japanese during WW-II) or by the forces of the country in question. (Many cold war shootdowns, some prior to the Korean War). Does it take your military personel captured by a third party back to it's country for long term interogation, and never return them? I don't think so. Those are the actions of an enemy. You don't have to be at war to have enemies, and the USSR was the enemy of the United States. Thus giving them aide and conform was treason, by the constitutional definition.

65 posted on 06/19/2003 8:14:30 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: bvw
Well.. Technically the soviet union was our "ally" but this is one of those imponderables of history - we really had absolutely nothing in common with them, other than a general agreement to crush the Nazis. In any case, spying/espionage, even for an ally, is a Bad Thing. Ask Jonathon Pollard.
74 posted on 06/19/2003 8:29:25 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: bvw

Why should I care? A spy is a spy..

I don't care if they were spying for Walt Disney.. who knows where that info wound up before it was all over and done with.

I would personally throw the switch on all of them, regardless of race or who (we think) they were spying for.

It's frankly a little troubling to me that some people would not.

89 posted on 06/20/2003 2:55:42 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: bvw
"...unless of course, you are JEWISH. For that"...

Oh, reach up over your head, grab your ears and pull your head out of your ass! Playing the race card is pathetic and totally wrong! They died for their commissar. Get over it!

155 posted on 06/21/2003 9:26:29 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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