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To: ohioWfan; Chancellor Palpatine
Just don't hurt yourself even more by 'dating and fornicating'......it's more dangerous these days than it has ever been.

So is marriage. It's easier to 'be careful' with the 'dating and fornicating' because at least the risks are known....

A good marriage.......one that is NOT crap.....requires two people to work at it, and you, unfortunately were the only one doing it in both cases.

Because women are rewarded now for not 'working at it'. They don't have to worry--they either do nothing, or crap on the poor guy and he either takes it, goes to jail and loses his house, kids, retirement and freedom or he just walks away and loses his house, kids, retirement and self-worth.

On the opposite, if I 'shack up', the woman has to work harder for it and actually try to make it work because my state doesn't recognize 'common-law marriage'.

The married woman need not try and is rewarded by the state and by society for being 'her own woman', The shack-up honey is either nice and tries to 'make it work' or leaves with nothing.

Tell me which makes more sense for me as a man? I cannot believe that God would want me to enslave my soul to the base passions and madness of another. Satan rewards madness and idolatry, not God.

State sanctioned marriage can no longer be a Godly institution because the State enforces an 'uneven yoke' on the couple.

Tell me, were Mary and Joseph married by a Roman Prelate under Roman polytheistic law, or were they married in the sight of God?

I'll never give a person the power to use the courts and cops to destroy me because they want to. Tell your sons to repeat that. It should be the mantra on the lips of every man.

112 posted on 06/19/2003 1:19:55 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: chookter
My sons are Christians. They are following God's laws by their own choice.....and those laws, made out of God's love for His children, require marriage......legal marriage......for a couple to have sex.

I'm sorry that your experience has embittered you......and I'm not surprised that it has. What was done to you stinks, and the women you married will be held accountable before a Holy God for what they did to you.

But that doesn't change the fact that those laws are there, and if one is to be obedient to the Lord, there is to be no sex outside of marriage. Period.

127 posted on 06/19/2003 1:54:18 PM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004!!!! Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: chookter
I am sure there are many women here who could tell very similar tales about the men they have encountered over the years.

Of course, I was told the other day that when my ex went off the deep end it was because he was suffering from latent homosexual tendencies, and I should have recognized that before we got married, therefore it was my fault I was a single parent. Relating this to you because there are those here that will blame your marriage failures on you... you just should have known better. I don't agree, and I can say that you aren't to blame, most likely.

But, as I haven't, neither should you, give up on pursuing things the right way. I do wish I could find a man out there that would court me (although, being a single parent, and living nowhere near my parents) it would be strange. And right now my priority is to finish raising my kids and get them off into the world successfully, which I might add they prove new things to me daily that they will be.
158 posted on 06/19/2003 2:41:47 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: chookter
Wow, that's a pretty compelling argument. I was thinking about getting married, but now...hell, I'm pretty sure I want to go kick your ex-wives' asses for you. What witches.

Women. Can't live with `em, sheep can't cook.
211 posted on 06/19/2003 6:24:24 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (this tag line was seized by the T.S.A.--it had a point)
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