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You wrote, "The offspring is always female, and is essentially an identical twin of the mother." ... Bob, how could the born thing be a twin of the mother and not be merely an extension of the mother, by your flawed reckoning of 'there is no new thing'? [And yes, Bob, I'm well acquainted with parthenogensis, but I've yet to see a scientifically proven case of human parthenogensis. You might want to direct us to the proof of such a marvel.]

You do an amazing amount of self-contradiction with your clownish posts that seek to bait and dissemble, but there comes a point when you cause the opposite effect than what you wish to achieve. Absurdisms only function to make people think, to contemplate, when the tool is not over used. You've taken it to the degree of 'over-the-topism' and you only get read by the single person you post to with your baiting nya nya juvenality. Do stop trying to bait fellow freepers ... you have seen how easy it is to vex you with a single baiting, so try to be considerate of your fellow freepers.

If you lack the education to carry on a reasonable discussion, at least pay attention to the posts of others and enter into the discussion accordingly. The childish nya nya baiting makes you look much worse. Hocndoc and others have treated you with courtesy far beyond your due. Don't return such kindness with insulting, repetitious babble.

you are the only one of the one celled individual creation at fertilization people, who I believe from what is written on this thread who has lived up to his own beliefs, that youall are trying to impose on those who don't believe the way you do. Most just want to impose their beliefs on us, at no cost to themselves, and they are not living up to their own beliefs, which is hypocracy and tyrany.

Do as I say, but don't make me do as I say, or don't remind me that I am not doing as I say, but you better do it.

Stop trying to impose your beliefs on us, and I will stop, then we will all be happy.

3. Andrew Pollack, "New Work May Provide Stem Cells While Taking Baby From Equation," The New York Times, p. D3 (November 6, 2001). This third article speculates about the prospects for parthenogensis [embryogenesis without prior fertilization]. Although a parthenote [an embryo resulting from parthenogenesis] would normally be female because one must start by chemically or electrically stimulating an egg, the procedure could be designed to produce male parthenotes as well, by using techniques involved in therapeutic cloning by first enucleating the egg and reinserting chromosomes from an adult male nucleus or from two identical sperm [and even male/male pathenotes from two different sperm donors (or fathers)]. Dr. Michael West, CEO of Advanced Cell Technology of Worcester, MA) was asked by the reporter if any of these speculations had been attempted in humans, but he tactfully replied that he "didn't want to discuss human experiments at this time, lest he jeopardize an upcoming publication in a scientific journal. [ Editor's Note: To my knowledge, no such experiments have been reported in the scientific literature as of this date, although, for other mammals, female parthenotes were first produced for mice and rabbits more than ten years ago, and, for frogs, parthenogenesis was accomplished in the 1950s at Oxford University in England.].