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To: chimera
My concern with the pro-abortion position is that it establishes, as a point of law, the ability of one person to do anyway with another simply as a matter of preference. This runs contrary to almost all ethical and moral precepts, and turns back the clock on thousands of years of ethical reasoning.

We may not see any moral harm done to the fertilized egg itself in its destruction. But we may still want to call it a "person" for in a strategy of protecting real persons.

We see the danger to real persons, even those outside the womb that pro-choicers see as persons, in too many "pick a person points" on the slippery slope.

The pro-lifers (I include myself as partly pro-life), have started a perception shift in society concerning personhood. Finding the next bright line seems too hard to agree on, hence some pro-lifers picking conception. That umbrella certainly protects all persons, and saves time and resources.

744 posted on 06/25/2003 8:00:44 AM PDT by secretagent
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To: secretagent
Finding the next bright line seems too hard to agree on, hence some pro-lifers picking conception. That umbrella certainly protects all persons, and saves time and resources.

I think there is ample scientific evidence for that choice as well as being logically and ethically defensible. Appropriate and reasonable application of Occam's Razor leads us to that point anyway.

746 posted on 06/25/2003 8:06:21 AM PDT by chimera
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To: secretagent
You offered, "The pro-lifers (I include myself as partly pro-life), have started a perception shift in society concerning personhood. Finding the next bright line seems too hard to agree on, hence some pro-lifers picking conception." That point for assigning status as a human being is a scientifically supportable point, thus it is a correct point regardless of personal prejudices. The DNA 'fingerprint' of you was established at your unique conception. Within hours your new individual life began constructing the placental barrier/encapsulation that would both protect you from tissue rejection and would function to nourish and breathe for your growing complexity, as you built the further organs and tissues you would use when exiting the water world into the air world.

If you did an unofficial survey of your friends and family, to see how many actually realize that the embryo builds its own placenta, that the mother doesn't build the placenta nor the other tissues and organs of the individual in utero ... if you did such a survey, I would bet the number of persons you could find who know the actual scientific facts would be less than ten percent.

The original purpose of this essay (I have this on good authority, that the author intended this) was to connect the meaning of the protocol defining 'aliveness' when contemplating organ harvesting, to the advent of individual human life, to show the embryo fits the protocol standard for 'aliveness' as an integrated functioning whole organism and is thus as much a human being as one being considered for organ harvesting but who evidences the standards for still being an alive individual and thus not to be harvested from. How do you feel about that notion?

747 posted on 06/25/2003 8:24:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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