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To: MHGinTN
Your snide comments...

Please cite an example of a "snide comment".

... it is not whether the embryo or fetus is in fact a human being that you care about...

Wrong. I do not believe that an embryo or fetus is a human being because there is no independent consciousness or independent ability to function as a human being (as I have stated to you in previous posts). I believe the reproductive process must be complete - including birth - before human being status is achieved. I know there is disagreement here which is why your following comment is way off the mark:

(as if you have found the final answers to the deep things)

I have not found the final answers to these matters and neither have you. That is why this should NOT be in the political arena and should remain in the personal arena of religious belief.

it is your political imperative that rules your belief system.

I am not the one who is trying to get the political power to allow my religious beliefs to determine your reproductive choices. I do not hold candidates to a litmus test of pro-choice or anti-choice regarding reproduction. Your "movement" does that.

So clintonesque

Are you not aware of the policy of no degrogatory personal attacks here?

445 posted on 06/22/2003 1:11:15 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper
Please cite an example of a "snide comment". Semper
Note: While you will not be successful in making personal reproductive decisions for others, you may indeed help the democrats win elections. Semper

Killing an already alive individual human being is hardly a 'reproductive decision' ... but you knew that, so you included the mischaracterization with your snide comment.

447 posted on 06/22/2003 1:19:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Semper
Personal attacks? ... Are you trying to whine, Semper? You can do better than that!

I have not found the final answers to these matters and neither have you. That is why this should NOT be in the political arena and should remain in the personal arena of religious belief. Semper The 'personal arena' you wish to protect has been responsible for 42,000,000 aborted individual alive human beings in America, and counting. If that holocaust is to be protect as your precious 'religious belief system', we have nothing over which to discuss the right to life since you've conveniently dehumanized all pre-born alive individuals as fit sacrifice for your 'rite of choice'.

It is past time to make this the most important issue in America, to stop the holocaust. Folks like you want abortion legal and easy to obtain, regardless of the truth regarding the prenatal alive individuals to be slaughtered on the altar of convenience and expedience. You couch your assertions in religious gobbledy gook, as if to apply a patina of piety and 'personal choice'. It is disgusting, in the main. Now, go whine to the Administrative Moderator that you've been insulted. You are an insult to the principles espoused in the Declaration of Independence where the flow is LIFE, then liberty, then the pursuit of happiness.

449 posted on 06/22/2003 1:31:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Semper; MHGinTN
445 - "I am not the one who is trying to get the political power to allow my religious beliefs to determine your reproductive choices."

This is exactly the problem. They are trying to force/jam their religious beliefs down our throats.

I want to jam their beliefs down their throats, and make them comply with their own beliefs. We need to get into their bedrooms, and make them get into their menses and save all these 'babies' in the menses, if they really think that way.
498 posted on 06/23/2003 2:06:46 AM PDT by XBob
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