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Remembering the Rosenbergs -- 50 years on
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| Wed, Jun 18, 2003
Posted on 06/18/2003 11:13:46 AM PDT by presidio9
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:13:47 AM PDT
by
presidio9
To: presidio9
Oh yeah, I remember them....
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:17:13 AM PDT
by
theDentist
(So. This is Virginia.... where are all the virgins?)
To: theDentist
It sucks to lose your parents, but I have not one bit of sympathy for the Rosenbergs. They are proven tratiors.
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:22:08 AM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al, Run!!!)
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To: presidio9
I remember when Greenglass' book was published in 2001. I have never read it, and I'd be interested in the thoughts of those who have. My reaction was that this was a gesture by an old man trying to square himself with family and friends who have long blamed him for "betraying" the Rosenbergs. I did not find his recantation so many years after the fact believable.
As for Ethel's guilt or innocence, I think it is clear that she was guilty at some level -- if not of espionage itself, certainly of knowledge of her husband's espionage. I refuse to believe that any man who loved his wife (and, by all accounts, Julius loved Ethel) could allow her to go to her death if he believed her to be innocent.
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:26:32 AM PDT
by
blau993
(Labs for love; .357 for Security.)
To: presidio9
I just read the book by Win Ho Lee regarding the witch hunt that the Clintons and fellow travelers persecuted Mr Lee when there was no evidence that he did anything wrong.
I do , however, believe the Rosenbergs were gulty . I lost friends in th cold war that were a direct result of the Communists in our own government. Joseph McCarthy was mostly right about espionage in our government.
Joseph McCarthy exposed a lot of the communists in our own government and he exposed that fact when there was a question about our country falling under the communist banner.
I feel that McCarthy will one day be acknowledged for the good work that he did when our country was in a very perilious situation.
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:26:56 AM PDT
by
southland
To: southland
Wen Ho Lee was guilty. Also, McCarthy was right but his methods were wrong. sadly, he set back anti-communists immensely and set us up forever so it is still easy for the fellow travelers to demonize and demogague today simply by screaming about McCarthyism.
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:34:46 AM PDT
by
Inkie
To: presidio9
They weren't "activists", they were SPIES!
They were traitors, and got what all traitors deserve.
The idea that Ehtel was framed by her brother is especially silly.
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:49:16 AM PDT
by
Redbob
To: Inkie
The Judge apologized to Mr Lee.
True, I did not hear the evidence but I know from experience how the sorry legal system we have in the United States works. I personally know people in prison who are only guilty of being poor.
Mr Lee was not poor but he was uninformed in the ways of the worst administration in the history of the United States. I have read some of Mr Lee's defence and I accept some of his statements that the information he was suposed to steal was old. I also have a background in nuclear arms.
Justice is something that can be bought as with X42.
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:51:29 AM PDT
by
southland
To: Redbob
Ehtel
ETHEL
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:51:29 AM PDT
by
Redbob
To: presidio9
Who are today's Rosenbergs and why are they not on death row?
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:51:43 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
Comment #12 Removed by Moderator
To: southland; ntrulock
Ping.
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:53:05 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
To: presidio9
Why didn't Jonathan Pollard and Aldrich Ames receive the same fate?
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:53:22 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: presidio9
Let's remember Mrs. Rosenberg and they way she may have looked sitting in Old Sparky:
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:56:00 AM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
("I think I will vote Republican, the Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth." - M. Lewinsky)
To: Redbob
There's no doubt they were spies and traitors, and deserved their sentence, but they should've at least been convicted of treason before their execution.
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posted on
06/18/2003 11:56:55 AM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: belmont_mark
Today's Rosenbergs are in high places. They accept money from PRC to fund presidential campaigns and libraries.
I believe that Wen HO Lee's description of the what happened to him is mostly accurate.
Wen Ho Lee is guilty of being from Taiwan.
To: dfwgator
Perhaps because they didn't attempt to help a world power which was the declared enemy of the American way of life?
What do you think?
To: blau993
>> As for Ethel's guilt or innocence, I think it is clear that she was guilty at some level -- if not of espionage itself, certainly of knowledge of her husband's espionage.
Ethel typed her husband's notes and was the ideologically more committed of the couple. Ethel also recruited her brother. Without him, they wouldn't have had any intelligence to offer. She was worst than Julius.
To: headsonpikes
Perhaps because they didn't attempt to help a world power which was the declared enemy of the American way of life? What do you think? Ames helped the Soviet Union, and Pollard's intelligence eventually ended up in Chinese hands. In my book that qualifies for execution.
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posted on
06/18/2003 12:06:34 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
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