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To: bondserv; All
Here's very nice essay on science and the scientific method.

Please read it, and then maybe you will understand what science actually is and why it can be NOTHING BUT OBJECTIVE.

http://www.carleton.ca/~tpatters/teaching/climatechange/sciencemethod.html

Using scientific metodology, YOU CANNOT BE ANYTHING BUT OBJECTIVE.... Because the evidence will lead you to an OBVIOUS conclusion.

Notice the evidence comes BEFORE the conclusion, that is the way science works, then from there we can make educated hypothesis about what else we should find if our theory is indeed true.

Therefore we can make predictions with it etc.

Please read the above essay, and you will see why ID is NOT scientific, it starts with a conclusion, and then tries to find evidence to fit that assumption, just as creationists do. And then of course ignoring evidence that will disprove their initial assumption.

If a scientific theory makes a prediction, and it proves to be false, the theory is either modified, or tossed out for a better theory.

This is OBJECTIVE by any definition of the term.

Again, Evolution is as objective as you can get.
249 posted on 06/22/2003 12:10:35 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000

"Again, Evolution is as objective as you can get."
250 posted on 06/22/2003 12:16:28 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: Aric2000
Wow, you are saying that evolution is purely fact, and that human being don't take those facts and extrapolate their ideas of how those facts tie together.

I am sorry to disagree with your assessment of the theory, but I must say evolution has not been proven in a scientific sense. Anytime a person guesses they are clearly leaving the realm of scientific method.

Educated hypothesis set up the tests that prove out a theory, but because a person has made an educated hypothesis does in no way verify that they are adhering to the scientific method. In fact if they cannot do reliable tests to prove out their entire hypothesis, they can in no way say that they are adhering to the scientific method.

Evolutionary theory is a step in the scientific method that has for the last 150 years fallen short of proving anything. Guess to your hearts content, but until you have the tools and methods to prove out your theory don't call it scientific.

The moon is a piece of cheese hanging in the sky. The evidence I have is:

1. Coloration is the same as my cheese.
2. It has holes that look like my swiss cheese. (Just look at it).
3. Cheese is round.
4. It makes me hungry when I look at it.

The moon is cheese, and I am a reputable scientist because I used the scientific method.
251 posted on 06/22/2003 12:35:26 PM PDT by bondserv
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