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To: ianincali
I just prefer a church where people are treated as equals...not a backwoods church where the womenfolk better not speak up, or else. Where in the bible does it say women must be subservient to men? Or that they should have no say in religion?

The new testament is VERY clear that men are to take leadership roles in the church and that women are to be in supportive roles. The Bible is also very clear that men and women are EQUAL IN VALUE just not in purpose.
117 posted on 06/18/2003 10:18:45 AM PDT by CaptainJustice (Dangerous Jesus Lover)
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To: CaptainJustice; ianincali; Motherbear
Where in the bible does it say women...should have no say in religion?

Of course the Bible doesn't say women should have "no say in religion," but that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not women are to lead or teach men in church. And the Bible is very clear that women are not to teach or lead men in church:

(1) Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived... [1 Timothy 2:11-14]

(2) As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but be in submission, as the Lord also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in the church...

If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. [1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 37]

130 posted on 06/18/2003 10:52:03 AM PDT by Lady Eileen
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