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I'm curious. You put yourself up on a 'high-horse', and refer to yourself and others, as if you're all somehow purer, or holy conservatives. What is a 'true conservative' to you? No, I'm serious! I always thought of myself as a pretty strong conservative, pretty much a Reagan conservative.

I do remember that while Reagan was a strong conservative, he also was a practical one. He knew how to choose his battles carefully. Sometimes spending didn't get cut. He knew what he could reasonably win, and what not. He always regretted not being able to get all of his pro-life policies through.

He also had to argue with 'strong conservatives' in his time. He would tell them he could do nothing for them, unless he could win, and be in a strong position for it. The so-called 'true conservatives' were giving him as much trouble as the liberal Dems. as I recall. I also feel that GWB has that practical quality, I think he learned things from both R.Reagan and his Dad.

There seems to be two classes of conservative, as I picked up on that thread. Those who know they are, and why, then they support GWB, and they supported Reagan. Then there are others who claim to have supported R. Reagan, and then they trash and malign GWB as being a big-government, socialist. If this is true; he's got to be the strangest big-government, socialist I've ever seen!

He's got all the extreme leftists who hate him passionately, and are always working against him; always calling him names, undermining some of his policies, threatening to impeach him, investigating him, like they did with Reagan. But he also gets it from the other side. The side the side who claims to have supported him, then turns around and trashes him and the rest of his supporters.

I don't know, could it be he's not a socialist at all? Think about it, and enlighten me as to what YOU think a 'true conservative' is, ok? Maybe I'll understand some of these 'critics' better then!

Well, friend, I would say a true conservative is one that has read and understands The Road To Serfdom by Hayek. That eschews compromise to the extent the W. does to "set the new tone in Washington." (see how well that worked)?

I believe Reagan was a true conservative. I do not believe W. is. I believe W. is a man of faith. But no conservative. At least his actions do not lend me to believe he is.