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Bush Presidency is Advancing the Progressive Agenda
Sierra Times ^ | 6-17-03 | John Bender

Posted on 06/17/2003 5:07:22 AM PDT by SUSSA

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To: xrp
bump
21 posted on 06/17/2003 5:51:44 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: ActionNewsBill
By the end of this year, he will have expanded government more than Bill Clinton did in his entire eight-year administration.

Huh, no statistics, just opinion. Also nothing about the tax cuts.

Can anyone say personal agenda?

22 posted on 06/17/2003 5:52:23 AM PDT by Dane
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To: SUSSA
bump...thanks for the post.
23 posted on 06/17/2003 5:52:53 AM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: TLBSHOW
the fake ones that have infiltrated us

Ok, if pointing out facts and making my opinons known about an article that is, IMO, missing facts makes me a "fake one", so be it.

King Todd has decreed it so.

24 posted on 06/17/2003 5:56:46 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
look around dane there has been thread after thread here that point out why Bush is not a conservative or a friend of conservatives. But the socialist here at FR like Bush have spread the lies and slammed those that told the truth.
25 posted on 06/17/2003 5:58:43 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (which can do more damage an elected rat or a rat like Matt Lauer on the lowest rated TV show?)
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To: SUSSA
You spend an awful lot of time attacking Reagan. Is it because Reagan is too conservative for your taste? Or is it because you can only defend Bush by trying to tear down Reagan?

I'm not attacking Reagan, he was the best President of the 20th century, IMO.

Just bringing up the tax increases that Reagan signed for historical perspective to show that Reagan was a pragmatic politician and not an infallible demigod that some on FR think he was.

26 posted on 06/17/2003 5:59:59 AM PDT by Dane
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To: ActionNewsBill
I don't think it's defensible using any language a conservative might understand. But I am interested in the reason why he's going nuts with this stuff. Is it because he loves big government? Is he trying to steal our freedom? Does he really think this stuff will "work"? Or has he calculated that he cannot be re-elected unless he yields to the spenders?

Because even though he is not a conservative, the Left hates him anyway. So why bother?

27 posted on 06/17/2003 6:01:27 AM PDT by big gray tabby
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To: SUSSA
Ya see the real problem is Bill and Hillary destroyed via neglect the US Military
Rather than maintain equipment they allowed it to break down and now instead of being able to keep many things long term via preventive maintainance...we have had to replace them
Units that have had no money for men equipment or training had to expend ten times more money in order to get back up to strength and readiness
The Clintons have allowed the infrastructure of many institutions to languish as they pursued a social agenda designed to line their pockets and expand programs to their constituency
Unfortunately their constituents dont pay much into govt as take it out...nor do they provide others with employment...
So with the Clintons spending we dont get any return...
At least with GW we will see some return and economic benefit long term
Or would if we would get rid of illegal aliens and dump NAFTA n Gat and China
28 posted on 06/17/2003 6:01:33 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Dane
Huh, no statistics, just opinion. Also nothing about the tax cuts.

There should be pretty good statistics on the lack of spending cuts whatsoever and in the monstruous expansion of the gov't's budget deficit.

Incidentally, W's anemic tax cuts which, by the way, make the tax code even more 'progressive' (the commies love that), are about to be more than matched by all kinds of tax increases at the state and local level.

29 posted on 06/17/2003 6:02:31 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: TLBSHOW
look around dane there has been thread after thread here that point out why Bush is not a conservative or a friend of conservatives. But the socialist here at FR like Bush have spread the lies and slammed those that told the truth

Yes, a thread here and a thread there spouting off personal opinions. Nothing wrong with that, that's the American way, but it my right to bring facts into the mix to counterbalance, IMO, the kneejerking these threads here and threads there bring about.

30 posted on 06/17/2003 6:03:21 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Can anyone say personal agenda?

If he was the only Conservative saying this, I might agree.

Bush is getting flack from almost everybody on the conservative side.

The liberals on the other hand are silent or are praising his name.

31 posted on 06/17/2003 6:03:28 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: big gray tabby
But I am interested in the reason why he's going nuts with this stuff. Is it because he loves big government? Is he trying to steal our freedom? Does he really think this stuff will "work"? Or has he calculated that he cannot be re-elected unless he yields to the spenders?

Yes. Yes. He probably believes that. Yes.

And, in the end... it's the men behind the curtain that matter.

32 posted on 06/17/2003 6:05:40 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: SUSSA
Bush has expanded Americorps, the Peace Corps, the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, Head Start.....

Their supporters all appreciate it greatly.......& will all still vote Democratic.

33 posted on 06/17/2003 6:05:47 AM PDT by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: big gray tabby
But I am interested in the reason why he's going nuts with this stuff.

Is it because he loves big government?

Is he trying to steal our freedom?

Does he really think this stuff will "work"?

Or has he calculated that he cannot be re-elected unless he yields to the spenders?

Answers....Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes.

34 posted on 06/17/2003 6:06:02 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: big gray tabby
the Left hates him anyway.
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and today on the Rush Limbaugh show he will make that same point and so for me the question is

Why is Bush Doing it?
35 posted on 06/17/2003 6:06:39 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (which can do more damage an elected rat or a rat like Matt Lauer on the lowest rated TV show?)
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To: Dane
Also nothing about the tax cuts.

Yes, GWB has done some good stuff. Tax cuts, medmal proposals, Kyoto, Michigan affirmative action case, the OSHA ergonomics thing...

Nevertheless, so far as domestic policies, he has been mediocre at best. Now, political realities may have prevented him from doing more we would like and forced him to do stuff we don't like, but it would be nice if....

He did not do stuff that is so obviously bad - to conservatives - so enthusiastically...

Rather than making excuses, even as we accept the 'reality' of the situation, we clearly state that w lot of what he is doing is hardly conservative.

36 posted on 06/17/2003 6:07:27 AM PDT by RJCogburn (He's a short, feisty fellow with a messed up lower lip.)
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To: Dane
but it my right to bring facts into the mix to counterbalance, IMO, the kneejerking these threads here and threads there bring about.

Bring on some facts, not this "IMO" crap.

37 posted on 06/17/2003 6:07:28 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: big gray tabby
the Left hates him anyway. So why bother?

Yes the left will always hate him. This is for the mushy middle, which wins elections, and this is only my opinion, but he is just trying to take away the demogougic spears the left throws and the mushy middle believes.

38 posted on 06/17/2003 6:07:36 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Destructor
<>i>Bill Clinton didn't have to deal with a crappy economy, and fight a war.

Yeah you're right, the war and the economy is forcing GWB into positions like embracing a 200 billion farm bill, Teddy Kennedy's education plan, a disgusting socialist drug plan (where my family has to pay for rich seniors drugs), expansion of Americorps etc. etc. etc.

Poor little Georgie, just had no choice with this economy and war.

39 posted on 06/17/2003 6:09:10 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Dane
Well I know what I say is Truth and Fact and long before it is known. The gift of course is to see the truth.
40 posted on 06/17/2003 6:09:36 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (which can do more damage an elected rat or a rat like Matt Lauer on the lowest rated TV show?)
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