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A darker side of pot growing Diesel, oil contamination a slippery, but serious problem
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Posted on 06/17/2003 3:30:04 AM PDT by chance33_98

A darker side of pot growing Diesel, oil contamination a slippery, but serious problem

By John Driscoll The Times-Standard

The cost of a pound of marijuana on the street may not reflect the steep cost to the land where it was grown and to people living nearby.

With the ongoing trend of moving big marijuana grows indoors, drug enforcement agents are frequently uncovering serious environmental contamination problems.

Mostly, the pollution is from diesel generators used to power energy-hogging sodium lights and ventilation equipment needed to grow high potency marijuana indoors. A below-standard diesel storage tank, and improper disposal of motor oil, can lead to soil and groundwater pollution that can cost thousands of dollars to clean up -- and in some circumstances is impossible to remedy at all.

The contamination has become more and more a part of criminal cases stemming from pot raids. Often, it's the owner of the property -- perhaps leasing it, even unknowingly, to pot growers -- who ends up responsible.

Just how widespread or serious the problem is depends on who you ask. Police, prosecutors and game wardens insist it is huge. Others claim that isn't the case; they say that most growers are responsible, and many don't even use the diesel generators that tend to be at the center of the problem.

It's difficult to get a handle on the scope of the issue, and whether people irresponsibly using generators for otherwise legal purposes may be just as big a problem.

Everywhere we go

"It's everywhere we go," said Ron Prose with the Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement, a division of the California Department of Justice. "I'm not talking about the guys with four plants in the closet. I'm talking about the guys who are like millionaires."

In 2001, a pilot program was launched with sheriffs' departments in California and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration to work on indoor grows. Prose said that drug enforcement agents frequently found grows in Southern Humboldt County and Mendocino County that used diesel generators, sometimes running them off underground tanks. The tanks were often leaking or connected with poorly coupled hoses to the generators. The growers dumped oil or haphazardly tossed oil containers on the ground, Prose said.

Soon, county prosecutors and the Department of Toxic Substances Control began to take notice. Today, there are several cases pending in Humboldt County Superior Court.

The problem is, the growers themselves often aren't the owners of the property.

"Many times we deal with the owners, given that the perpetrators aren't available," said Luis Rivera of the North Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board.

Depending on the circumstances, when large numbers of buildings are erected and significant changes are made to the property, that may seem fair. But occasionally, an absentee landlord really doesn't know what's happening on his property.

"If you or I changed our oil and dumped it in the back yard, we'd be in a lot of trouble," said Sgt. Wayne Hanson, who leads the Drug Enforcement Unit for the Humboldt County Sheriff's Department.

Hanson said it is often tough to prove who the suspects are. In one case, contamination from a grow was shuffled off to an unsuspecting property buyer, who is now trying to recoup cleanup costs from the original owner, Hanson said.

Rivera admitted that it's not possible to put a score on the problem, since a survey of the issue isn't readily available. But he said the board staff only deals with the worst problems, and even a minor spill can prove troublesome locally.

"The impact is immediate and very perceptible to the people around it," Rivera said.

Oil and diesel can find its way into groundwater and into drinking water, and into creeks when it rains.

The county Environmental Health Department responds to spills that may threaten drinking water supply. Department Director Brian Cox said that environmental health responded to eight separate spills related to marijuana grows in 2001. Since then, he believes the number has come down.

Where the problem seems most acute, in Southern Humboldt, Cox said he believes education has gone a long way.

"I think the residents in Southern Humboldt care and they don't want to see degradation of their environment," Cox said.

Just bad apples

That's what Richard Jay Moller thinks, too. A well-connected Southern Humboldt criminal defense attorney, Moller believes poorly managed fuel and oil is the exception rather than the rule.

While he agreed that some contamination takes place, he said that many growers seem to have made the switch to cleaner propane generators. (Some sources say it's only because they are quieter.) It's the greedier big-time indoor growers who use diesel, he said.

"The unfortunate thing about the crackdown on outdoor growing is that it has led people indoors," Moller said.

While that argument roils law enforcement agents, it is true that many outdoor growers have gone inside, and have become increasingly sophisticated to avoid detection. Prose remembered an operation staged inside a $250,000 home with high-end lighting and ventilation systems. No one lived there, and in fact, the grow was nearly self-sufficient. A cell phone would call the caretaker if anything was amiss with the operation.

Still, Prose said, the grower's waste disposal was primitive. He merely opened a valve on the generator to let the oil spill out the window through a tube.

Moller argued that there are no doubt some bad apples. But he said that out of all the people using equipment -- for any reason -- that requires diesel and motor oil, there are a few who are not responsible.

Following their noses

Several years ago, Fish and Game Warden Larry Bruckenstein and a co-worker stumbled across a stream that smelled of diesel. The two followed their noses up the stream and the smell got stronger. At the source of the smell, they found an indoor grow and diesel leaking right into the creek.

Bruckenstein is particularly frustrated with the growers, because he says they have the money to do things right. Pot can fetch more than $3,000 per pound. A May bust in Garberville turned up what might have been $8.75 million worth, had the plants reached maturity.

The raid by the DEA, the Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement and the Humboldt County Drug Task Force on three parcels found 20 buildings and 10,000 plants. The bust also netted several rifles and two all-terrain vehicles.

The equipment inside the structures was powered by two diesel generators, one 125-kilowatt and the other an 85-kilowatt generator. In this case, leaking fuel and oil caused minimal damage, according to environmental health officials.

All of the 27,000 pot plants destroyed by the task force since January were found in indoor grows. It's likely that other busts will be made once the outdoor growing season is in full swing, but indoor grows are becoming a greater percentage of the total figure. Part of that is because operators can grow three crops per year.

The biggest indoor grow bust in California history took place in 1998 on Lord-Ellis Summit off State Highway 299. About 12,000 plants were found in a house used exclusively for growing. Its five operators were reportedly making $50,000 per month.

But instead of using a small portion of that income to upgrade fuel storage, Bruckenstein said, "They cut corners at every possible chance."

If petroleum products enter state waters, the state Department of Fish and Game can prosecute both criminally and civilly. And while the regional water board can issue a cleanup and abatement order and levy stiff fines, often the mess just can't be cleaned up.

Not just growers

One manager of a Humboldt County hydroponics store, who asked not to be named, isn't convinced the problem is that severe.

He estimated that perhaps 95 percent of his customers who buy sodium and halogen lights are buying them for use on the Pacific Gas and Electric Co. grid. He knows because the 110-volt lights he sells the most of aren't compatible with diesel generators. Also, the manager said few people come in to buy a large number of lights.

He agreed that diesel pollution is most likely a problem, but added that he suspects gas stations pose an equal or greater risk. Further, he pointed at timber companies' widespread use of diesel as an additive to herbicides, which are legally sprayed over thousands of acres of timber cuts each year. That spraying is done under specific guidelines, but has caused concern in some communities.

The source said he can't imagine pot grows posing the same problem.

"It would be hard to believe that it's as big of a problem as they would want it to seem," he said. "But is the problem out there? Yeah."

Hands full

Paul Hagen, Humboldt County deputy district attorney and environmental circuit prosecutor, said the problem, which he suspects is severe, really requires more investigative resources.

"It's my strong feeling, from anecdotes over time, that the problem is chronic, systemic and widespread," Hagen said. "If the true extent of contamination from generators were known, the public would be appalled."

On that end, the county's handful of drug cops already have a huge work load, and the environmental investigations that stem from their first duty are just a byproduct.

Hagen said it is difficult to get perpetrators to clean up under criminal statutes. He said the District Attorney's Office can prosecute for the disposal of toxic substances, but can't order a cleanup of the mess. That's up to a judge. And the district attorney has no authority under the California Superfund Law -- that's the domain of the Department of Toxic Substances Control.

But cleanup demands can be written into probation terms, as Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman is doing in one case not yet resolved. In the terms are demands that the perpetrator contact the Department of Toxic Substances Control, environmental health and the regional water board to investigate and fix the contamination. The agencies must also be reimbursed for their costs.

As Hagen pointed out, one of the main problems in making irresponsible growers responsible is a lack of resources. At a time when the state budget is on life support and the county is making heavy cuts and layoffs, it's difficult to see how effective -- on a large scale -- prosecution of environmental crimes related to indoor grows may be.

If, as environmental health's Cox suggests, education has gone a long way, perhaps the problem will begin to fade, especially if prosecutors are nudging them on, securing stiff penalties in the cases they can get their hands on.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: ganja; idiotdruggies; idiotdrugwarriors; liberalservatives; liberaltarians; madness; marijuana; pot; reefer; reefermadness; wod; wodlist
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To: Leisler
I think the law should be changed to allow people, who own oil wells in their backyard, to drain the oil from their engines, even little V-8 Suburbans.
61 posted on 06/17/2003 8:12:15 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: chance33_98
Ron Prose with the Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement, a division of the California Department of Justice. "I'm not talking about the guys with four plants in the closet. I'm talking about the guys who are like millionaires."

Triple play! Not only do they grow the 'Evil Weed', they are enviromental criminals, and worst of all they are the 'Evil RICH"!

PUKE!

62 posted on 06/17/2003 8:12:50 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: stevio
Not surprising. Bacteria (from dirt) and air will eventually break down the oil. Spreading it out and aerating will help.
63 posted on 06/17/2003 8:16:06 AM PDT by palmer (Plagiarism is series)
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To: jmc813
I just looked at JR's posts and even did a cntrl f search for the word "libertarian" and nothing came up. So I do not know where he "thanked" Liberaltarians dear. There seems to be nothing "in forum" if you care to do a search as I did. It sounds like an urban legend promoted by Liberaltarians.

What I did find is that JR wants a smaller government, less taxes, etc. So what? So do most Republicans.

Anyways...this thread is boring.

Go back to your "Phish" records. I'd rather go to other threads and listen to britpop.
64 posted on 06/17/2003 8:16:51 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
There seems to be nothing "in forum" if you care to do a search as I did.

Our good friends, the Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Reformers, Buchananites, paleocons, and other right-wingers, etc., may have some pretty good ideas about constitutionality, freedom, Liberty, etc., however, they are weak numerically, and will probably never get much stronger. - Jim Robinson 6-10-03

So should I take your word for it and believe that L/liberarians really are liberal or should I take JR's word for it that they are "good friends" of FR? Hmmmmmm, tough call.

What I did find is that JR wants a smaller government, less taxes, etc. So what?Which is why he supports the Republican Liberty Caucus, a small-l libertarian Republican organization. You may not be aware, but there are very few members of the Libertarian Party here. The great majority of anti-War on Drugs FReepers (myself included) are Republicans.

Go back to your "Phish" records.

I'm listening to their New Years '94 concert as we speak. :-)

65 posted on 06/17/2003 8:26:29 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: jmc813
"leftist idiots who protested it ... are you "defending" them?"

No, not them. We would be defending their First Amendment right to free speech.

But you say you're not defending pot. Well then, what are you defending? Is there some fundamental, constitutional "right" to smoke pot? If so, then how can you be willing, nay eager, to let individual states take away that "right"?

If we're going to keep alcohol legal, why do you draw the line at making pot legal? Why not other drugs, some of which have been claimed to be even safer than alcohol?

66 posted on 06/17/2003 8:39:53 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: jmc813
I don't "defend" it. I don't think it's the smartest thing for one to do, but if we are going to keep alcohol legal, it's a total sham that pot not be.

Hmmm. Well I'm against alcohol too and cigarettes. So I'm pretty consistent.

67 posted on 06/17/2003 8:52:47 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: robertpaulsen
But you say you're not defending pot. Well then, what are you defending?

Maybe I guess you can say I'm defending pot. When you have all these idiot government types going on about how "marijuana causes terrorism" and "pot is by far the biggest danger to our youth", and my personal favorite "pot will cause you to take you fathers unsecured gun out of his desk and shoot your best friend", then maybe I suppose I am defending it. I stand corrected. I just get tired of idiots with funny screennames coming onto these threads and accusing everybody who doesn't fall for the anti-pot propoganda of being a pot-smoker themselves (You are not one of these idiots, for the record).

If we're going to keep alcohol legal, why do you draw the line at making pot legal? Why not other drugs, some of which have been claimed to be even safer than alcohol?

Sure, if they're safer than alcohol, legalize them too, though I, for one, do not buy the arguments that heroin and the like are.

68 posted on 06/17/2003 8:58:00 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Hmmm. Well I'm against alcohol too and cigarettes. So I'm pretty consistent.

If you think they should be banned, then I don't agree with you. However, you do have my respect for being consistent.

69 posted on 06/17/2003 9:00:33 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: jmc813
Your honesty is refreshing.
70 posted on 06/17/2003 9:22:59 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: chance33_98
No, I think they just made the worst enemy of all - the enviro-weenies.

Think they'll start blowing up the pot growers houses and vehicles ;-)

71 posted on 06/17/2003 10:06:19 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: jmc813
The pro-drug war crowd is not usually consistent. In fact, some of them can sit at their computers, death-causing nicotine delivery device hanging out the corner of their mouth, and a neurotoxic, addictive, family destroying alcoholic drink in a glass at their side.....while they make posts calling for harsh penalties for growing and using a plant that has none of the above characteristics. Logic is not used in their thought process.
72 posted on 06/17/2003 10:48:39 AM PDT by rebelyell
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To: robertpaulsen
Is there some fundamental, constitutional "right" to smoke pot?

No, nor to wear plaid shirts. There are, however, natural rights to do both.

73 posted on 06/17/2003 11:07:33 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
Ah, a "natural" right. What is that, exactly, and how do these "natural" rights fit into our legal and social system?

Or are you just making things up?

74 posted on 06/17/2003 11:24:32 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Natural rights derive from man's nature---specifically, his free will and reason. As a free-willed reasoning being, a man is able to formulate and pursue his own ends, and it is thus contrary to his nature to use him as a means to one's own ends. Thus, a man has the right to perform any action that violates nobody else's rights.
75 posted on 06/17/2003 11:56:24 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
And these are different from unalienable rights?
76 posted on 06/17/2003 12:37:32 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Not so far as I know.
77 posted on 06/17/2003 12:51:12 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: EddieB
Another arguement for legalization???

No, but it is a call to register all generator owners in a national database. :^)

78 posted on 06/17/2003 1:10:46 PM PDT by j_tull (# grep "truth" "Living History" > truth.txt ; wc truth.txt <cr> 0)
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To: viligantcitizen; Wolfie; cinFLA
HPS lamps are not as monochromatic as LPS, but they are still highly slanted to the yellow / orange end of the spectrum and are not good for plant growth. As the article notes, growers use 400 watt MH (Metal Halide) lamps. These are also the lamps generally used over larger salt water aquariums because their spectral distribution is more even.

If you are interested in getting a better crop, regardless of the plant, MH is the best, not HPS. However, I believe that I read where a better yield will be had with the inclusion of some other lamp types to round out the spectrum, specifically quartz (incandescent). When I learned about this, my focus was on commercial and industrial lighting, not farming, but some manufacturers at trade shows were showing their wares to indoor gardening operaters.

Actually, outdoor stadiums use a combination og MH and Quartz lighting when they need to up their Color Rendering Index for night TV broadcasts.

Finally, the article also points out that sellers were questioning the number of 110 volt lamps sold. This may be true for quartz, but all discharge lamps are the same irrespective of the line voltage supplied to the ballast. The lamp doesn't know if you have 110 or 277 volt lighting in your building, it's the ballast's job to convert line voltage.

79 posted on 06/17/2003 1:53:57 PM PDT by par4
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To: j_tull
No, but it is a call to register all generator owners in a national database. :^)

Don't give them any ideas.

80 posted on 06/17/2003 2:01:00 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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