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To: dennisw
The numbers are estimates. Nobody knows. 100,000 to half a million executed by Dzerzhinskii. Concentration camps erected. Slave labor instituted (more kindly referred to as a "draft"). 3 to 10 million killed in a manmade famine. All between 1918 and 1922. Trotsky was as much responsible as Lenin and the rest of the top Bolsheviks. So was John Reed who received over a million dollars from the Bolsheviks in 1920 to write propaganda for them. The Black Book of Communist details much of it. Some good quotes from Richard Pipes and others are here( Prof. Bryan Caplan. George Mason U.)

I used to believe Trotsky was the ideologue who was not involved in any atrocities beyond what one would expect in a Revolution and Civil War. The information which has been released in the last decade changed my mind. I'm open to correction.

But, once again, I don't get what Trotsky's ideology has to do with anyone in the GOP (or the Democrat party). This neocon stuff is annoying. Seems to be nothing more than an attempt to split conservatives.

33 posted on 06/16/2003 8:26:23 PM PDT by DPB101 (The first lawyer elected Speaker of the House of Representatives was arrested for treason)
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To: DPB101
That's all it is and some here are useful tools, denouncing anyone they disagree with as " neo-cons ".
50 posted on 06/16/2003 11:59:14 PM PDT by nopardons
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