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To: ComtedeMaistre
As far as most victims of communism are concerned, there is no difference between Stalin, Trotsky or Pol Pot. They are all mass murderers.

Don't be silly with sloppy reasoning. To repeat Marx once again, "Quantity changes quality". No way did Trotsky kill millions. This is never written about because it never happened. He was not the mass murdering psycho that other communists were. Such as a Mao or a Stalin. Pol Pot. Hitler.

32 posted on 06/16/2003 8:06:17 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
>>>>No way did Trotsky kill millions. This is never written about because it never happened.<<<<<

Unlike Marx, Trotsky's career was not limited to being confined to a library, reading stacks of books on history and philosophy.

Trotsky founded the Red Army. People were murdered under military units he commanded. Even Shwartz does not deny his crimes against anti-Bolshevik forces.

To deny Trotsky's crimes, is similar to those historical revisionists who try to absolve Hitler from the crimes committed in the Nazi death camps, because they say that no written order from Hitler exists ordering the extermination of concentration camp victims.

In fact, I consider Trotsky a worse criminal than Joseph Goebbels of Nazi Germany, because Trotsky actually founded and led murderous military units, while Goebbels job was limited to spreading poisonous (but nonetheless, damaging) propaganda.
34 posted on 06/16/2003 8:28:25 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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To: dennisw
He was not the mass murdering psycho that other communists were.

I beg to differ.

I will never understand the need some people have to try to find and salvage the reputation of some benighted "good communist" among those murderous terrorist thugs (which is what they were) to whose defense they will tirelessly rally. It used to be Lenin: "Lenin wasn't that bad, Stalin perverted his theories, took them to the extreme", bla bla bla. For you, it's Trotsky, he's a misunderstood pussycat cuz his hands got covered in the blood of thousands rather than millions (or whatever the perverted reasoning is... i see you take refuge in some quote of Marx, "quantity changes quality", as if it were holy writ).

Don't misunderstand, I don't want to argue with you about your little Trotsky. You can have your "intellectual" thug Trotsky. I just wonder why some people seem to need him, or someone like him, so much. For some unknown psychological reasons it's awfully difficult for many people to just open their eyes and see those bastards for what they were.

Just think what a waste of time and electrons it is for you to sit on a bulletin board in 2003 and type words in defense of "Trotsky" or whatever the hell the oh so "intellectual", "theoretician" (why? cuz he wore spectacles??) terrorist's real name was (funny how the cowards all took fake names). Gawd it's pathetic when you think about it.

43 posted on 06/16/2003 10:31:47 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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