[dennisw]

what "movement"? The four guys Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Stephen Schwarz, and David Horowitz? Uh, fine. All those guys were socialists at one point.

So what?

Tell me what any of these people believe now that is similar to "Trotskyism". WHY CAN'T YOU DO THAT?
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TRUE! What are they up to now? GWBush gave up drink and these guys gave up socialism, Trotskyism long ago. People change. Would the Paleos prefer they remained leftist?

[Dr. Frank fan]

I'm starting to think that maybe we simply have a case where people have been fooled by their own phony circular definition. Consider what this all seems to boil down to:

1. "Neo-con" = former leftist turned conservative.

2. Many are now "shocked" to discover that some "neocons" used to be leftists.

This "neo-con" stuff just gets stupider every day.