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Could this neocon-Trotskyite nonsense come from Trotsky's view that only a proletarian revolution could bring about the creation of a Jewish state? It is twisted thinking to compare that to the policies of the Bush administration but many on the left and a few on the right do think everything Bush does revolves around Israel. If they also believe that Trotsky was using revolution as a means to create a Jewish state (as his writings suggest) the leap isn't far to claim Neocons have simply changed tactics to achieve the goal of advancing rather than creating the Jewish state.

It is late and maybe this makes no sense. I'm open to other explanations behind this "neocon/Trotskyite" nonsense.

One thing is certain. It can't be ignored. Too many people are repeating it. Does anyone know who began it?

It may be late, but what you wrote makes some sense.

IIRC, Irving Kristol, one of the original/FFs of neo-cons wrote about neo-cons first and it was more or less ignored until recently. Now, the left and the fringe eliments, such as Pat Buchannan, have picked up the term to use as a perjorative.

It is late and maybe this makes no sense. I'm open to other explanations behind this "neocon/Trotskyite" nonsense.

The Trotsky connection is designed to slime the neo-conservatives by making them out to be once and future commies. When reality is they are legitimate conservatives. Though obviously not paleo-conservative or libertarian. FWIW: I'm half neo-con and half paleo.

As far as Trotsky and Israel I know nothing. If it exists, it exists only in dusty old books. I've never heard of it so it has zero influence on Zionism or pro-Israel people

Could this neocon-Trotskyite nonsense come from Trotsky's view that only a proletarian revolution could bring about the creation of a Jewish state?

So "Trotskyism" was nothing more than a method of Zionism? News to me..

many on the left and a few on the right do think everything Bush does revolves around Israel.

How many is "many"? I've heard very, very few people say this.

If they also believe that Trotsky was using revolution as a means to create a Jewish state (as his writings suggest) the leap isn't far to claim Neocons have simply changed tactics to achieve the goal of advancing rather than creating the Jewish state.

To believe this I'd have to believe that "neocon" is nothing more than a code word for "Jew". But that can't be the case, people who use the word "neocon" are always insisting there's more to it than that.. ;-)

I'm open to other explanations behind this "neocon/Trotskyite" nonsense.

I'm open to explanations which involve filling in the blanks of my post #86.

One thing is certain. It can't be ignored. Too many people are repeating it.

Sorry, sentence 2 simply does not follow from sentence 3.