Davis supporters don't discuss him

LA Daily News ^ | June 14, 2003 | Chris Weinkopf

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks! There have been some fierce flame wars on some of the threads with much arguing as to who should replace Davis!

Rather entertaining but I say ANYTHING is better than Davis!

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

Now, the demoRATS control everything. How did they get into power so fast? Was it Klinton and his frequent visits there?

I've only been here since 2000, but I can take a stab at it.

I think the biggest blame goes to the California Republicans. I'm serious, these "big tent" political geniuses (in their own minds) running the party believe that CA is too liberal to ever elect a Republican, even though as you point out from recent history-that is sheer idiocy.

In fact, they campaign very similar in style to the Democrates nationally, they wet their fingers and stick them in the air, they avoid difficult stands at all costs, and they're poll driven. They dither, they waffle, they contradict themselves. In other words, Parsky and Rioden and others do their best to keep voters in rural area at home on voting day. These people have become the "Swing voters" because they might not vote, but this is totally lost on Sacramento. They high five eachother for the 2.1% Democratic votes they swung when their candidate was for tougher gun laws, or for a woman's right to choose and think if they just move further Left next time, they won't lose by 15% someday.

California Republicans are defeatists. They're feckless cowards, intellectual bankrupt, and they've been committing political suicide as long as I've witnessed them. How did it happen so quickly? Well a popular conservative CA Governor once said that Democracy is never more a generation from disappearing, and its something that must be fought for. They couldn't be farther from "fighting" with Democrates because it might offend or come off as mean.

This Recall, which the CA GOP didn't support no matter what the papers tell you, might be the best thing to happen to them if they get Tom McClintock elected who has a real understanding and plan on how to eliminate this debt.

[Cheapskate]

A message to GREY BOY DAVIS;
you see a hand writing on the wall
~
"Te'-KEL
Thou art weighed in the balances,and art found wanting"
(Daniel 5,27)

[Ciexyz]

Go Arnold go!

[c-b 1]

Rather entertaining but I say ANYTHING is better than Davis!

I have learned not to say that, we used to have a socialist congressman, we said anything would be better than him, were we ever wrong. Now we have a a full blown Marxist, La Raza congressman, who represents Mexico. The old one looks good now.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

I also remember the blue/red map of 2000 showed more land voting for

Yes, voter fraud sounds like a problem, so does party fraud. The aforementioned pretentious elites of the Republican party were mad as hell their man Dick "campaign check for Maxine Waters" Rioden was beaten by Simon, so they half handedly supported him, then when the Davis smear machine painted him an Enron like corrupt businessman, they either piddled down their legs or sold him out, I don't know which happened.

I do know, speaking of the red/blue map, that the often butt of jokes Simon "secretly" carried every county in CA except two, LA and SF and barely lost the popular vote, but the California Republicans still managed to lose to a guy who turned a $12 billion surplus into what was at the time thought to be around $20 billion deficeit in 1 term, and passed the buck onto Simon's inexperience. Speaking of acting like Democrates...buck passing!

[markman46]

I want to know where he stands on the issues, like dealing with the budget first, he might make a good gov,

[Grampa Dave]

This lack of defense of Davis is around N. California by his die hards. This weekend I got to hear two of them plead their strongest defense, "He was elected and should be allowed to serve his full term!"

They either set like rocks or stand like trees and say nothing to defend Davis besides he was elected.

[John Jorsett]

It's going to be a circus, and it's going to be entertaining, but nobody could possibly be worse than Davis.

I'll have to disagree on that one. Cruz Bustamante would be worse, I think, as would any number of the loons infesting the legislature these days. Which is why the recall is only half the solution; we've got to work to get a Republican elected when Davis gets his ticket punched.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

"He was elected and should be allowed to serve his full term!"

I got a good one for that logic. Would these partisans agree that because he was elected in a landslide that President Richard Nixon should not have resigned, and that the Constitution would have been better served if he had served out his term?

See how they like them apples.

[Grampa Dave]

It is a good one until they say that Davis committed no crimes or was behind a crime.

I will try it.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

Hey Ace, good stratigery. Open you big yap about Davis and everyone will burst out laughing.

Ya know the spin meisters have checked alot of polls on Davis, that's how they are trapped. Any anti-recall partisan; make them defend Davis' rule.

Stupid moron politicians, can't even balance a simple budget and spend within their means.

It is very simple, Tom McClintock wrote months ago that the only thing they need to do is cut spending by 9.5%, then hold spending rates for 18 months, and the terrifying unsolvable deficit is gone!

But Gray has a talent, fund raising, and those interests demand a return on investment.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

Well, the only thing they got Tricky Dicky on was the appearance of a crime, and that it appeared that he covered up after the fact. But the actual act wasn't a big deal at all, some Demos felt violated, why do I care?

Now Gray on the other hand, and I've always wanted an answer on this since I heard in months ago on Larry Elder got something like $350,000 in campaign contributions from none other than Enron. He then went ahead and locked in these long term high price contracts.

This begs the question, did Gray allow this power crisis to come up in order to pay back such a large contributor? They'll deny it, but you can say that "the appearance" of inpropriaty is so glaring that he must have at least covered it up the wrong doing of his energy contracts after the fact.

So he's as bad as Nixon, except the the crime Gray committed is much, MUCH more serious than B & E on a Democratic headquarters. We shouldn't be talking about a recall of Gray Davis, we should be talking about an Impeachment.

[Grampa Dave]

I don't know the actual amount, but Davis received one if not the biggest donations from Enron.

What he did with Whoreacle was a total crime re whoreacle's money and special considerations for Whoreacle at the state level.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

Yeah, I was alittle late on hearing about the Oracle kickbacks, but that was a travesty of justice. I think alot of people are signing because of hearing about that alone.

So that 2 issues right there that make Gray Davis worse than Richard Nixon. Nixon stepped down (idealistically and naively if you ask me) and Gray denies he's ever done a single thing wrong in his term.

They're right if they argue with you about comparing the two. There is no comparison, Nixon had honor and shame, Davis doesn't know the meaning of the words.

[Joe Hadenuf]

It is very simple, Tom McClintock wrote months ago that the only thing they need to do is cut spending by 9.5%, then hold spending rates for 18 months, and the terrifying unsolvable deficit is gone!

You bet. Any high school student could balance this thing in short order. It's gunna happen. Like I stated, we are not dealing with Arkansas here. This budget mess can be reversed pretty quickly, with a few common sense decisions.

[Orbiting_Rosie's_Head]

Cataloging his most noteworthy accomplishments or demonstrating his competence and integrity is, apparently, too ambitious a task even for Sacramento's most-seasoned spinners.

Calling Rumplestilskin!

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

You bet. Any high school student could balance this thing in short order. It's gunna happen.

Well, they'll have to deal with alot of really p*ssed off teachers, prison gaurds, and Unions who all have friends in the local media. That guy has to have an ability to take people hating him.

Issa has that

McClintock has that.

I honestly don't think Ah-nold has that. All these fan boy's of this pleasing moderate might just set the GOP out here back another 5 years when he gets in there and cuts nothing.

This budget mess can be reversed pretty quickly, with a few common sense decisions.

I agree, that's the kind of optimism we need. We need somebody in there who shares it.

[L.N. Smithee]

While the state's leading Democrats -- such as Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Controller Steve Westly and Senate President John Burton -- oppose Davis' removal, they haven't ruled out putting their names on the ballot to succeed him.

OMG...Governor John Burton?

If that happens, invest in luggage retailers. People will leave the state in droves to escape taxes and fees and socialist reforms in the schools.