[sinkspur]

Drunk?

[TBall]

Wow, I finally click on this thread and I'm surprised that the Bishop is not being charged with child molestation. Only hit and run what a relief

[Servant of the Nine]

That is Maricopa County, Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
The one with the tent city County Jail.

Mighty hot there in the summer.
Green Balony.
Pink Underwear.

Perhaps he will receive a call to minister to sweaty men in pink underwear.

This indictment is just a place holder till they sort out a Vehicular Homicide charge.

So9

[JoeFromCA]

This guy should be a poster boy for the failings of the roman catholic church. I was in Arizona last week and the local news was non-stop about this turkey and the DA's success in nailing him for harboring abusive priests. This bishop or whatever he calls himself had the gall to go on TV and specifically repudiate the agreement he had signed admitting his guilt!! He said he had gone to Washington and met with the pope' s US rep and the pope (speaking thru this rep) had told him to tell the DA he answered to the pope, not the DA.

It's no surprise to me, having seen the lying .... on TV, that he would continue his criminal career. Hopefully he'll be put away for the rest of his life.

[JoeFromCA]

It just occurred to me that the same Mariposa Cty DA who nailed this guy for harboring abusive priests (and whom the bishop dissed on TV last week) will now be prosecuting him for manslaughter/murder/felony hit and run. This perp is REALLY toast. The only party I feel sorry for, of course, is the guy whom the bishop killed, and his family.

The roman catholic church better get its checkbook out again. Maybe the pope and the vatican could contribute this time?

[george wythe]

What a sad episode.

As a Catholic, I'm hurt to find out a minister of the gospel did not stop to help an accident victim, or at least, to call for help.

What happened to the Good Samaritan example to help people injured on the road?

[JoeFromCA]

It also just occurred to me that in state prison this bishop will get a dose of the abuse the priests he criminally harbored were handing out to children in their care. Again, very sad and a tragedy for the victim, but certainly poetic justice for the bishop.

[rmvh]

Re your # 1...

It is time that all Catholics should be given a choice: either leave the country now or face public trial for public perversion!!!.

As any sane person knows, only the Catholic religion has perveted leaders, ignorant followers, and in turn has never contributed military or political heroes or made other significant contributions to America as all other major religions have in this country.....and in much greater abundance!!

Lets pillage this ill begotten faith and all of it's followers.

In the meantime, Please have a nice evening

[rmvh]

Re your # 1...

It is time that all Catholics should be given a choice: either leave the country now or face public trial for public perversion!!!.

As any sane person knows, only the Catholic religion has perveted leaders, ignorant followers, and in turn has never contributed military or political heroes or made other significant contributions to America as all other major religions have in this country.....and in much greater abundance!!

Lets pillage this ill begotten faith and all of it's followers.

In the meantime, Please have a nice evening

[wideminded]

Here's something I wondered about after seeing a picture of Father O'Brien that accompanied another article last week: Isn't he an unusual-looking individual? I'm not referring to the dyed hair, but to the shape of his face and his expression. Does this particular facial structure have any further meaning? Or am I just making too many connections? Not that his physiognomy should convict him of anything, but it is probably true that you can read a lot into a person's expression. The picture below is the best one I could link to, although it doesn't really convey the full effect.

[devane617]

This is a sad story indeed. Could this be a case of age being a problem rather than careless driving.

[JoeFromCA]

Does anybody know whether the perp is spending the night in county? Or did the church bail him out? Sure would like to go to sleep tonight knowing this punk is sleeping in a bunk in county.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

This is a good thread. LOL!

[St.Chuck]

The only thing I can think of that could possibly explain his behavior is that he didn't see what struck his car. At 40 mph it is possible, in dim light, and perhaps even distracted at the precise moment of impact, to miss what you had hit, so fleeting and instant is the collision.

Well...one can't help notice the crater in the windshield. Even if you were unsure of what had occurred, one would certainly be reasonable in desiring to know what it was that hit them and pull over, or even stop right then and there. Except for someone like Bishop O'Brien who has been publicly condemned in the press and internet forums, hounded by the prosecutorial arm of the law, and no doubt subjected to the criticism of the clergy in his charge and the laity he is to shepherd, if not his confreres. Could not have death threats been made to him? Certainly some of the bile as sampled on this thread could have made it's way in amplified form to the rectory of the bishop. O'Brien thought he was attacked! He didn't slow down or stop to render aid. He sped up to reach safety. If he wasn't aware of what he struck, it would be perfectly reasonable to believe that he was struck.

Of course, if that was his state of mind at the time, one would ask why he didn't report the incident to the police. I can only offer the response that he had been through a week dealing with the civil authorities, the following day, Sunday, was a busy one. The damage to the car can wait.

As far as the drunk charges: I don't know how far Buckeye was from the scene of this tragedy, but I don't know if the bishop would have had enough time to cop a buzz after mass. Those present at the mass, those who talked with him afterwards would be able to present a picture of his sobriety or lack of. An hour or hour and a half is not alot of time to get drunk beyond all sense of human responsibility IMHO. Does Bishop O'Brien have a reputation for drinking, Arizonans?

Anyway...just providing a plausable and charitable explanation.

[IrishRainy]

Drunk?

For the record, he had just presided over a confirmation ceremony on the other side of town from 6 to 7:30. After the ceremony, he probably attended some sort of reception, as he did at my daughter's confirmation last year. The accident occurred at 8:30 which sounds about right as far as traffic, etc.

But ya know, I wouldn't blame him if he had had a nip or two...if you could see the way the media is treating him and Catholics as a whole here. Absolutely disgusting! They have special music and graphics on TV, calling it "Crisis in Faith," etc.

IMO, if someone leaves the Church over this matter, they were probably looking for a reason to leave. My Church and my faith were built on Jesus, not on any one man. We are all sinners, and even a man of the cloth can succumb.

[Ebenezer]

Hit-and-run. That sounds like the way some bishops dealt with the sex-abuse scandals in their respective dioceses.