[justshutupandtakeit]

Oh, yeah. Patrick Henry and Roger Sherman vs. Alexander Hamilton, George WAshington, Madison, Wilson, Marshall and Adams. Sorry I go with the latter bunch when it comes to wisdom. The State hacks opposing them to protect their petty fiefdoms don't measure up in any degree.

[DPB101]

I can see why someone would think I am an anti-Federalist from my replies above but I'm not. Merely pointing out that Federalists were naive in believing a Bill of Rights would protect states and citizens from the Federal government for very long. Or maybe they were not naive. They knew but there was no other reasonable alternative. What ever the case, the fears of the anti-Federalists have proven to be well founded.

I do have a hidden motive here. Libertarians and some conservatives like to scurry down into their "Where is that in the Constitution?" burrow when the debate is at its best. Flushing them out by suggesting their beloved Jefferson and Constitution were flawed is fun.