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To: dansangel
"You are the one flinging about the notion that the 4th Amendment is dead and the police can come into my home any time they damn well please."

Well, they can, Dan, so get used to it. All they have to do is allege that you are involved in some sort of "terrorist" activity, and they can basically do whatever they want to you and your property, including hold you without charges for an indetermined amount of time.

You can believe that this act will never be used against the average Joe, and I hope you are right. Just remember: The government promised us that a social security number would not to be used for identification. Did they keep this promise? If not, why do you believe the same tripe they are trotting out surrounding the Patriot Act?
66 posted on 06/16/2003 1:17:36 PM PDT by Henrietta
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To: Henrietta
Well, they can, Dan, so get used to it. All they have to do is allege that you are involved in some sort of "terrorist" activity, and they can basically do whatever they want to you and your property, including hold you without charges for an indetermined amount of time.

Really? I find that strange, "Henry," since I pore over the news during nearly every waking hour and cannot recall one instance of this happening to an innocent victim. If I'm wrong about this, please educate me. Contrary to the way you post to me, I *do* have an open mind and have been persuaded to change my point of view when *facts* and not *emotions* have been presented.

The government promised us that a social security number would not to be used for identification. Did they keep this promise? If not, why do you believe the same tripe they are trotting out surrounding the Patriot Act?

I agree with you (see?) wholeheartedly on that one. What keeps me clinging to the notion that perhaps the same will not happen with the Patriot Act is that we are currently under a Republican administration. We became slaves to government during each and every one of the dim-witted democratic administrations - More Government, Big Government. And, we have just come off of 8 years of lies and deceit.

I am trying to have faith that the current administration is more forthright. Laugh at that if you will, but that's where I'm at right now.

67 posted on 06/16/2003 1:28:24 PM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it or LEAVE it!)
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