To: Henrietta; .45MAN
The cops will be coming by your house later on today, just to have a look around. You'll let them in, right, 'cause you don't have anything to hide...This is a rather extreme statement. We still have the 4th Amendment which requires "probable cause" for a search warrant.
I think two deaths at an estimated 98 MPH impact (that info is without the benefit of the black box) is "probable cause" enough.
22 posted on
06/16/2003 9:42:24 AM PDT by
dansangel
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To: dansangel
I think you're on the right track.
Facts, in this case the logging data, are neither inherently good nor evil. It is the preservation of due process, or the erosion of due process that is the critical matter here. As long as there is probable cause or a warrant then this is merely another "witness" to the accident. In that situation, it would be wrong to suppress the evidence.
31 posted on
06/16/2003 10:07:19 AM PDT by
Ramius
To: dansangel
"We still have the 4th Amendment which requires "probable cause" for a search warrant. "
No, I'm afraid that's gone out the window with the advent of the Patriot Act.
And the mere act of being in a traffic accident is not "probable cause" to believe a crime has been committed.
Besides that's not the issue; the issue is, I don't want to be filmed, recorded, and spied upon. Even if I'm not doing anything wrong, I consider it an invasion of my right to peacefully conduct my business and my life without surveillance.
I won't buy a car with a 'black box.'
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