[carton253]

That may be true... but that doesn't change the fact that the Arabs believe that land was ripped away from them by European guilt over the Holocaust... and it doesn't change the fact that they believe it is a part of greater Syria, and they want it back.

I'm not saying I agree with this assessment, but I am saying that the Arabs believe this as fervently as I believe that Israel has a right to exist in secure borders in peace.

[johnb838]

Yeah, maybe all my life I've been too hard on the poor arabs. I mean, you're right! They had the land, they supported the Nazis, they lost the war, they lost the land. Then they went to war against baby Israel and they lost some more land. Then they went to war with Israel again and they lost some more land. Then in 1973 they tried it again and lost again. So they decide terror works much better (see Munich 1972) and become terrorists.

They can go screw. They want Israel let's see them take it on the battlefield not like a bunch of panty-waist skulkers attacking the defenseless and hiding behind their women's skirts. I don't believe it's because they feel the land was stolen. I think they just like to kill jews.

[thoughtomator]

The combination of the two irreconcilible and immovable beliefs makes war necessary. Let there be a brief and bloody war where all those on the losing side who will not surrender their belief surrender their lives. Then we won't have to watch future generations continue to make the same mistakes that the current one, and previous two, made.