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Rabbis said to call for 'transfer' of Arabs
Jerusalem Post ^ | Jun. 15, 2003 | ABIGAIL RADOSZKOWICZ

Posted on 06/16/2003 8:31:43 AM PDT by yonif

Pointing out that Palestinians use the language of religion to promote their jihad against the Jewish state rather than the language of Aqaba, Rabbi Dov Lior, the chairman of the Council of Rabbis of Judea, Samaria, and the Gaza Strip, quoted traditional Jewish sources in his call on Arab countries last Thursday to award the "right of return" to Palestinian Arabs.

Radio stations and newspapers over the weekend reported Lior's statement as a call for the "transfer" of Arabs. A source closed to the council explained that Lior's stance was based on Jewish law, which holds that those who do not observe the Noahide laws could not dwell in the Holy Land. Among the Noahide laws is prohibition against bloodshed, and Arabs who either support bloodshed, or fail to denounce it, could not be permitted to dwell in the land.

The statement referred to biblical sources to the effect that only those gentiles who accept Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel are permitted to dwell in it, quoting the verse, "And you will settle the land and no one will terrify you."

The council source emphasized that, while the statement was on the ideological and not operative level, it addressed the root religious reason of why the two peoples could not live in the same parcel of land.

Voluntary transfer has been the platform of the Moledet Party, founded by assassinated minister Rehavam Ze'evi.

The official spokesman of the council, Rabbi Daniel Shilo of Kedumim, was quoted by the press as saying that the statement was Lior's alone. Rabbi Nachum Berkowitz of Ma'ale Adumim, another of the seven rabbis who make up the council, said he had not been informed of the statement before it was issued.

Lior, a child Holocaust survivor, is among the foremost rabbinical authorities of the national religious world.

Rabbi Yuval Sherlo, head of the Petah Tikva hesder yeshiva, said that while there is no argument that those who commit terrorism do not have the right to live here, "one has to be very careful of definition. One can't describe all the Palestinians living in Israel as terrorist supporters. That's like a license to kill them, because even President Bush has said that those who support terrorism don't have the right to exist."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabs; israel; rabbis; security; transfer; waronterrorism
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To: Cachelot
I provided a link to a reputable and authoritative

No :).

Well I visited the link and found nothing objectionable about it. It should not be a surprise to anyone that Jews do not acknowledge the divinity of a human being and in fact consider such a concept blasphemous according to our beliefs.

That said, religious Jews do not actively seek to proselytise the non-Jewish community. But occasionally a non-Jew will inquire how gentiles can achieve salvation without converting to Judaism.

"Noachides" are not Jews. Many are former Christians who may have an axe to grind against whatever church they were raised in. A Noachide may also be a practicing Christian or even a Muslim (Shaikh Abdul Hadi Palazzi is an example of a Muslim Noachide).

41 posted on 06/17/2003 6:57:17 AM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
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To: Alouette; Cachelot
I’m sure willowpar just came across that specific quote in pursuit of his Talmudic studies, and drew the conclusion on his own Christians will be banned from Israel as idolaters.

I think what Cachelot was referring to, and what puzzles me a bit, is that that quote from the mechon-mamre site is cited prominately In Michael Hoffman's The Truth About the Talmud: A Documented Exposé of Supremacist Hate Literature , featured prominately on sites such as stormfront as The Talmud: Judaism's holiest book documented and exposed, on Radio Islam as THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TALMUD. Judaism's Holiest Book., and in other fine places, As proof positive, from the Talmud that, among other things, Jewish Law Requires Christians be Executed.

It’s a curious citation, but accidental I’m sure.

BTW, while "Noachides" are not Jews the white supremecist community frequently hangs on their every word. Next we'll be citations on the Jewish plot to outlaw Christman trees.

42 posted on 06/17/2003 7:16:49 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
that quote from the mechon-mamre site is cited prominately In Michael Hoffman's

No surprise. They probably have quotes from the Bible as well. Distorting out of context is what they do.

43 posted on 06/17/2003 7:22:25 AM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
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To: MississippiMan
Right. I think the recent poll only showed something like, what, 98% support for continuing terror attacks against Israeli civilians?

Sorry I misspoke. You right, over 80% of the Arabs in the Territories, that is the PLO-Arabs support terrorism and the dstruction of Israel. What I meant to say is, that one can't describe all the ARABS who are ISRAELI CITIZENS (and living in Israel, 1.5M) as terrorist supporters. The Israeli Arabs in eastern Jerusalem, for example, opposed Israeli govenrment talks over their future (that is going to PLO control for statehood). They want to remain in Israel.

44 posted on 06/17/2003 8:44:01 AM PDT by yonif
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To: UbIwerks
I doubt they'll leave voluntarily; just throw them out.

That probably will be the case in 25 years, when the Arab population exceeds the population the is Jewish.

45 posted on 06/17/2003 8:45:15 AM PDT by yonif
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To: UbIwerks
I doubt they'll leave voluntarily; just throw them out.

That probably will be the case in 25 years, when the Arab population exceeds the population that is Jewish.

46 posted on 06/17/2003 8:45:20 AM PDT by yonif
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To: veronica
BTTT
47 posted on 06/17/2003 8:46:21 AM PDT by yonif
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To: per loin
ALL ARABS NOW RETURN TO ARABIA - THEIR RIGHT AND YOUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME SPACE CALLED PALESTINIAN. THE LAND OF ISRAEL BELONGS TO THE ISRAELI PEOPLE, NO ROADMAP IS GOING TO EVER CHANGE THAT.
48 posted on 06/17/2003 8:55:11 AM PDT by Hila
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To: yonif
Gotcha, Yonif. Thanks for the clarification.

MM

49 posted on 06/17/2003 9:00:43 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Willie Green
I think you are right EXCEPT - what about creating for them a wonderful place - a place of such wonder and beauty that also incorporates wonderful and beautiful places for the nation whose populace would be asked to vote to do this - so that the billions/trillions of dollars that are now wasted on blowing up and rebuilding etc. would be poured into a wonderland for not only the Palestians but also for the people who would graciously vote to host them - some place with a great attraction not only for the Palestians but for all the people of the region.
50 posted on 06/18/2003 12:47:43 PM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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To: Willie Green
It is not Arab that is the problem is is Allah - the belief in this god and the people of Israel don't beleve in him - so these two peoples with two different ideas must be separated - even if a Muslim was a 'native' in Israel these too ought to be offered the paradise of which I am speaking - a beautiful place created for them in the land where a people will vote to host them - with the trillions being spent by Israel, the US and the arab nations supporting the Palestians being poured into this new wonderful place.
51 posted on 06/18/2003 12:50:24 PM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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To: thoughtomator
There will just arise more fale gods from human hearts that will not worship their Creator.
52 posted on 06/18/2003 12:51:15 PM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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To: per loin
It would cause trouble whereever we invited them to go IF we did not provide to the people who lived in that country a great great incentive to have them come - I would think the greatest place would be Australia - it has similar deserts but also would be a place that could be rehabed with all kinds of modern technology and provide a place where aborigines would find a great home too - a place of near paradisical luxury - who wouldn't want them to come if this was promised and what Palestinian in their right mind wouldn't want to move to such a place and get rid of all this horrific bloodshed and destruction? The only ones who would stay in Palestine would be the Hamas kind and then you wouldn't have to be careful where the bombs landed.
53 posted on 06/23/2003 8:16:07 AM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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