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To: Doctor Stochastic
one only needs 4 internal states and 7 symbols (I think this has been reduced to 4 & 5 respectively) to create a universal Turing machine.

A Turing machine is a processor, nothing else. As I showed in post#513 and some following, that even the most advanced computers, far more advanced than Turing machines (and Turing machines can be implemented on just about any modern computer) only understand 0/1 or on/off. Whatever they do, has to be programmed into them, this requires numerous rules for them to do even simple processing. Just because the 'programming' is on a tape, a disk, on a chip or some other place does not make any difference, the programming, the high level language necessary for it to process rules, algorithms, data, or anything else is necessary for it to do anything useful. This alone requires more than 5-6 rules.

The problem of life, is not rules, but information, the creation of information not the description of it. Simple rules lead to simple results. We were all fascinated as kids with kaleidoscopes, they seemed to do fantastic things and make fantastic arrangements with just the turn of the wheel. However, after playing with it a bit, we saw that each one was pretty much the same to each other and eventually lost interest in it. This is what happens with simple rules, the sameness shows through. However, this is not what we see in life. As my example on post# 518 shows, the ways of living things are not only quite remarkable, but quite different in different species - even those which are clearly similar in many ways. Such things cannot be explained by simple rules. It requires information, very precise information which requires an intelligent being to create it.

537 posted on 06/24/2003 9:06:06 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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To: gore3000
Simple rules lead to simple results.

No. That's the point of Wolfram's book.

538 posted on 06/24/2003 9:11:55 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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