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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Heartlander; All
Well, at least one can say that Grandpierre has some interesting ideas. To my mind, the above excerpt recalls the Mandelbrot set....

Yeah, shucks, ya cain't even get chaos outta just same ol' same ol' without God.

BTW, see the word "became" below. I would be prone to use this in my suspicions that Lucifer cum Satan had a hand in what we know as "creation," hence the chaos, hence animals eating other animals, hence the need for a garden, etc....

The Earth Became Without Form, and Void

He Did Not Create a Chaos


Strong's Exhaustive Concordance: Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary:
"1961. hayah ... to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass."
"8414. tohuw ... to lie waste; a desolation (of surface)."


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was [or became — see Gen. 2:7; Strong's: hayah] without form [Strong's: tohuw], and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

[Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became [Strong's: hayah] a living soul.]

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain [Strong's: tohuw] [RSV: he did not create a chaos], he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.


Topical Bible Studies > God > This Study

fm.  http://www.topical-bible-studies.org/02-0012.htm

522 posted on 06/23/2003 8:37:23 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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To: unspun
Thank you so much for sharing your views!

My "take" (which is described in the article) is different. But we each must arrive out our own understanding from the Word:

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. - Philippians 2:12

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. - Acts 17:11


524 posted on 06/23/2003 9:10:34 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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