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To: Alamo-Girl
Thank you for your further explanation, A-G. You've laid things out so well. I confess I don't see a distinction between relating and abiding in, when it comes to life in Christ. My siblings and I were taught to pronounce our vowels and consonants from an early age but aside from phonics, I don't see the difference from what you are saying. ;-)

I don't think you really do either. Do you see a difference in the state of abiding in Christ when one would embrace the Father and when one might embrace a Galaxy however that might occur, or when one might put one's arm around another person on Earth? Please don't think of the word "relation" as if it were a just a matter of a point of contact between things otherwise totally separate, as if it were bocci ball. ;-)

As for sins of the heart, well, they are sins of the heart, sins of intention in one's imagination, with emotional involvement that is ungodly in one's inner being. That is sin enough to be sin I think! however it may or may not extend from there, especially since "there" is to be of infused cohabitation with God's own spirit.

In these special experiences, I hear from you that you have a beginning a middle and an end of them. That would mean that they have sequence (and that doesn't disappoint me). I can understand that we might have a kind of elasticity and other kinds of facilities with events and sequences in our spiritual and heavenly state, but it seems that whenever angels (and demons) are mentioned they are mentioned as having experiences with sequential definition. The only being from the Word that I can be sure of having consciousness outside of any sequential definition would be God the Self Defined. This doesn't mean I disallow anything you are perceiving. As Paul said, we are seated in the heavenly places and hidden in Christ as we live and breathe and type (in one kind of darkly observed "typing" or another). ;-)

Yes ma'am, thank the Lord for his unspeakable gift! -- Himself.

498 posted on 06/21/2003 10:23:30 PM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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To: unspun
Thank you so much for your reply! And Amen! on the thanksgiving to God!

Indeed, God is above all else, including timelines and dimensions as well as sequences and eternity.

As to the matter of "relating" - I clearly see where such can be done while also "abiding." But to whatever extent there may be a difference - from my point of view, I'm so raptured by the abiding, I could be absorbed such that I would never relate again and be forever happy about it.

500 posted on 06/21/2003 11:20:24 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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