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To: tortoise; js1138; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; djf; Phaedrus
The Kolmogorov complexity of the brain IS very high, arguably substantially more so than our current computers, but is otherwise achievable without invoking magic.

Then good, one wouldn't want to make deals with devils. Hope to look into Kolmogrov complexity, tort. Probabilities was the 'higher math' subject that I actually enjoyed. Point is of course that this as we know it is not, by observations and testimonies of them, likely to be the only complexity out there.

Scientists don't waste their time on problems we know we can't solve; there is no value or glory in it. Powered flight attracted human scientists for centuries for the same reason before it was finally solved.

Salutes to them, in this 100th year of powered flight (well, also the 101st year, depending on how you look at it). Without wasting time though, I wholeheartedly suggest that every scientist invests time regarding problems they cannot solve on their own. Mostly outside their comp. time, I suppose.

Always leave room for what one may know one doesn't know (in our incompetence, unconsciously or consciously manifest).

BTW, is not an attempt at a 'forced' study (double-blind or otherwise) of 'extra'-psychic phenomena similar in effect to the intrusive effects one finds by the scientist's blunt force applied to our study of physical quanta? (Corrupting influence by the very presence of test and measurement.)

And who was it that said that that particle testing is like shooting two finely made clocks or watches at each other and studying their identifying functions by the pieces which fly apart?

428 posted on 06/20/2003 10:21:33 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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To: unspun
Thank you so much for the heads up to your conversation with tortoise!

Indeed, the people who work on strong Artificial Intelligence expect to achieve their goal. There would be little reason to continue if they thought it couldn’t be done.

Others, like Penrose, say there is a point at which it can go no further. I doubt if I’ll be "in the flesh" when the issue is finally resolved.

But either way, any such strong A.I. device does not obsolete the human ensemble of anatomy, physiology and consciousness – and most importantly, the soul. Nevertheless, having such a self-maintaining and replicating intelligent device would be extremely important for space exploration, intelligence, defense, research, etc.

434 posted on 06/20/2003 11:29:58 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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