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To: betty boop
"...indeed there is every indication that the level of complexity of individual parts of organisms has not changed much in at least several hundred million years. So this suggests that somehow the complexity we see must arise from some straightforward and general mechanism and not, for example, from a mechanism that relies on elaborate refinement through a long process of biological evolution...."

This sounds to me more like symantics than substance. The reason mice are used in medical experiments is that we share 99 percent of the bichemistry of mice. What I find remarkable is that tiny changes in the blueprint make such huge differences in form and function. This is one of those profound differences between things that are "designed" and things arising through evolution. Living things have an enormous economy in their blueprints.

203 posted on 06/17/2003 11:27:26 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138; Alamo-Girl; Nebullis; Phaedrus
This is one of those profound differences between things that are "designed" and things arising through evolution. Living things have an enormous economy in their blueprints.

I read this statement and come up with the reverse sense than you do, probably because you used the word "blueprint." A blueprint is a model of economy; and blueprints are always designs. Living things arising in nature through evolution may do so according to a blueprint in precisely this sense. I don't think this possibility has been (perhaps cannot be) ruled out.

208 posted on 06/17/2003 12:47:13 PM PDT by betty boop (When people accept futility and the absurd as normal, the culture is decadent. -- Jacques Barzun)
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To: js1138
This is one of those profound differences between things that are "designed" and things arising through evolution. Living things have an enormous economy in their blueprints.

Indeed there is a tremendous economy in living things. For example, when the genome project was done, scientists were surprised that there were only some 30,000 odd thousand genes in humans because they had already identified some 100,000 different proteins used in human organisms. The reason is that genes can be made to make more than one protein by using very sophisticated code reuse. Some genes can make more than 50-60 proteins! Code reuse is definitely a sign of intelligence. It takes hard thinking to figure out how to take code from here and there to make it do something else you need done. This cannot be done by dumb luck.

252 posted on 06/17/2003 7:46:47 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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