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To: Zack Nguyen
humanists, atheists and socialist

I like humanists and athiests much more than you do - and I'm less sweeping and less certain in my criticism of socialistism.

However, I do have big problems with current left-wing political thought...I can't stand political correctness. More generally, the Left has a basic problem; at bottom, they're trying to justify greater rewards for the meek, the weak, the dumb, the unlucky - life's losers. Not an easy task. Some very, very famous people have tried and failed on this one.

None-the-less Leftists intellectuals, if they're capable and good at their job (as opposed to incompetent, foolish, and intolerant) deserve respect.

282 posted on 06/17/2003 11:56:36 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Why?
283 posted on 06/17/2003 12:02:12 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: liberallarry
However, I do have big problems with current left-wing political thought...

Can you give me an example of left wing thought that is worthy of respect even if it isn't current?

I can offer some possibilities: the anti-Jim Crow movement of the 50s and 60s -- but this was really started back in the 1800s by Republicans, so I consider it an ethical issue rather than liberal or conservative. Welfare -- but this goes back at least as far as jewish law, which mandated "leavings" for the poor at harvest time.

I would argue that most of the issues with which liberals justify their supposed moral superiority are neither liberal nor conservative. they are matters of personal character.

286 posted on 06/17/2003 12:09:41 PM PDT by js1138
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To: liberallarry
More generally, the Left has a basic problem; at bottom, they're trying to justify greater rewards for the meek, the weak, the dumb, the unlucky - life's losers.

I wouldn't call someone who is weak, meek or unlucky "losers." However, I do agree that political correctness is an attempt at social coercion. You should consider that, because frankly many points of political correctness reflect the viewpoint of socialists and atheists.

I agree that everyone deserves respect.

290 posted on 06/17/2003 1:26:40 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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