[Alas Babylon!]

Oh yes, and we let Hirohito continue to be Emperor of Japan. So Japan also won even after being nuked.

[Steel Wolf]

Ah, but they didn't win, because we FOUND Hirohito. Apparently, the trick isn't whether or not our enemy is defeated (ie Hitler, Hirohito, Saddam, Usama, or even WMD) but whether or not they are found.

We defeated Iraq, but we didn't find WMD or Saddam, so we lose.

Al Qaida is shattered, and is stuck limping from cave to cave, but we haven't found UBL, so we lose.

Nazi Germany was smashed, but we never got Hitler, so Nazism lives on. Please deposit another 25 cents.

[smlrgvtpls]

Theres a good book coming out called "All the Shah's Men:An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror" Here's the link to the first chapter. This is a must read for those unfamiliar with the roots of modern day Iran.