Posted on 06/13/2003 8:17:51 AM PDT by kattracks
It used terms for sexual identity that came from the Kinsey Scale.
". I said percentage wise, gays are more prone to molest children and that's what the facts support."
This was interesting, 4. B Myths of Homosexual Behaviors: http://www.jeramyt.org/gay/gayscience.html
My mistake. I probably got the two of you mixed up.
"And no, I'm not even talking about promiscuous homosexual sex, I'm talking about homosexual sex as documented in Anal Cancer and You."
Yes, and the reason anal sex can cause cancer is HPV. I think the rates I read were 30-40 out of 100,000 gay men get anal cancer. The HPV is what causes the increased rate in homosexuals. Still, hardly a death sentence.
Also.. for clarity... you're talking about gay men, not all "homosexuals".
I gave you the links.
Were you the guy who posted all those "Homosexuals were responsible for the rise of the Nazi party and death camps"?
Not only does your link use the Kinsey ScaleQwerty responded:
It used terms for sexual identity that came from the Kinsey Scale.And that is very suspect.
Obviously that link didn't support your position so you provided another, which supports my position. That is, percentage wise, gays are more likely to molest children. That's all of my links and both of your links that support my position. Perhaps you don't understand the issue here.
Have a good night...
Yes, you provided links. But the links did not contain any of the information you claimed they contain. Therefore, my statement that your position is based on facts that don't exist is valid. In other words, you still have not supported your statements nor rebutted mine.
That's just more misdirection.
You've provided a few links and none of them have helped you or your position. Every link I've provided supports my position that homosexuals are more likely to molest children. The facts simply are not on your side.
No, the Bible does not anywhere suggest that lustful thoughts toward another man's wife deserves stoning. Jesus said, correctly, that sin doesn't come from external issues but form out of the heart. Same with the sin of homosexuality.
But you can only be judged by what you do, not by what you think. So a man who has sexual thoughts about other men is not gay. Only a man who has sex with other men is gay. In the same way, a man who dreams about robbing a bank is not a theif, only a man who robs a bank.
Both men should look at why they desire something evil. But neither is actionable by law.
Shalom.
Fisting isn't sex. It can never in any conceivable understanding lead to reproduction.
I would have a problem with a conference about sex containing information about peeing on your partner. I understand some people link this to sexual activity, but it isn't sex.
And obviously a lot of people agree with me, because the best defense GLSEN can mount was, "Hey! Nobody was supposed to know what we were talking about."
Shalom.
The ex-gays I know personally would disagree with you strongly.
But you need to believe that you are what you are and cannot change, mostly because you don't want to take responsibility for your behavior. So convince yourself they are lying.
It's safer than actually getting to know them.
Shalom.
Why do you say this?
Shalom.
At one time we had a rather humerous bump list on FR called BRAAD. JimRob disagreed with our tactics so we changed the name to SASU - Straight Americans Speaking Up. Maybe we need to actually form a lobbying and PR group to counter GLAAD. I suspect that most straight Americans would speak up more if they just felt safe in doing so.
Our motto could be, "It's OK to say it's not OK to be gay."
Whaddya think?
Shalom.
Both on the ash-heap of history. Find a working model.
Shalom.
Personal experience is the dangerous one. It's often based on feelings which are not terribly reliable.
Not to make too strong a connection, but Jeffrey Dahlmer probably thinks he was born a cannibal. Just because you feel something you do naturally does not make it right or good.
Homosex is a cancerous evil that destroys, first the individual, then the society which tolerates it.
You might argue that you don't feel you're being destroyed. But then you would have to remember that most people don't have any symptoms of cancer -
Until it is too late.
Lest you think I am being too hard on homosexuals, the same could be said of adultery, fornication, and (I seem to remember this being the topic of the thread) pedophiles.
Shalom.
Actually, I told you that, and you don't seem to know what extant means.
Shalom.
If military force were all that were necessary, Sparta would still exist. A culture needs more than might. Sparta might have used homoerotic behavior to maintain their strength (?) but they also murdered children. Yes, it kept them strong, but it did not keep them alive.
You would be more sane to justify child murder by Sparta than to justify homoerotic behavior.
I asked for an extant - one that has survived - example.
Shalom.
Hey Jeff. According to the dictionary definitions that you posted I'm a Bigot. And proud of it.
In your other posts you say that I'll have to meet my fate in front of Almighty God. That's cool. God is the biggest bigot I know (or know of). He has no tolerance for any opinion other than his own. He says that homosexual behavior is an abomination that should not happen and that those who do it should be killed. He also says that those who are trapped in this lifestayle can get out if they choose to. God calls homosexual behavior totally a choice.
So. Since I'm bigotted exactly in the same way that God is bigotted. I guess I'm in some pretty good company.
This truth deserves to be repeated. Every habit, even sexual perversion, can be broken.
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